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  • HoppysMag
    Hoppy's en Fuego!!!
    • Oct 2001
    • 3494

    #1

    california is at it again



    they are trying to get rid of a shooting range used by civilians and police, thats been there for 60 years. people moved into the area, knowing the club was there. signe waivers, and are now complaining. people are stupid.
    "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." -John Morley
  • SCpoloRicker
    HA HA I'm custom!!1
    • Jan 2004
    • 4375

    #2
    yes. yes they are. this has been around...
    God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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    • Python14
      Norsk
      • Jun 2001
      • 3343

      #3
      Trust someone in california to do something like that.

      Here in VA, if there isn't a shooting range......well, there's never not a shooting a range. Everyone has a window.
      BLOODY MURDER!

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      • Boski51
        SAC OLD BOYS (SOB's)
        • Nov 2004
        • 332

        #4
        Please keep in mind that Califonia should really be about two or three different states. The folks in So Cal-generally speaking look at things differently than those in Nor Cal. In fact those in the Bay Area and LA area are generally politically much more left leaning than those in the rest of the state. Unfortunetly for the "red state" people, the majority of this fine state vote "blue" if they vote at all.

        Boski

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        • billabongboy13j
          Operation Ivy
          • Jan 2004
          • 1468

          #5
          atleast you dont live in the gay state. Massachuessets.
          www.redvsblue.com
          dyNASTY

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          • Jack_Dubious
            ubi dubium ibi libertas
            • Apr 2002
            • 922

            #6
            People shouldnt automatically assume that just because a city is trying to shut down a Gun Club ,its because the city hates guns.
            Isnt it just as possible perhaps that the City wants that land, or the neighbors hate the noise?


            on a side note to everyone who lives in other states: California really does suck....so i think you should all QUIT MOVING HERE!!! We're full!

            JDub

            "Automags.org. You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."

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            • frontrunner
              lost.......
              • Jun 2004
              • 392

              #7
              I'd like to declare florida full too...

              on topic this happend to the range i used to shoot at as a kid it was huge and had space for everything but it got force to close. A real reason was never given but a huge subdivsion poped up 2 years later. Its sad bucause there are many indoor ranges in the area but that was they out door range and i am still looking for a place to really shoot i love balck powder but have no real place to shoot around here. i sucks but its life


              Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

              trigger pull game

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              • HoppysMag
                Hoppy's en Fuego!!!
                • Oct 2001
                • 3494

                #8
                Originally posted by billabongboy13j
                atleast you dont live in the gay state. Massachuessets.
                i do
                "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." -John Morley

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                • HoppysMag
                  Hoppy's en Fuego!!!
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 3494

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jack_Dubious
                  People shouldnt automatically assume that just because a city is trying to shut down a Gun Club ,its because the city hates guns.
                  Isnt it just as possible perhaps that the City wants that land, or the neighbors hate the noise?


                  on a side note to everyone who lives in other states: California really does suck....so i think you should all QUIT MOVING HERE!!! We're full!

                  JDub
                  well, the "niegbors" moved in AFTER the gun club was there. so that just seems to be punishing the stupid with noise. and its not like they are as close as your nieghbor, theres buffer zones... its almost a fact. its because they are anti gun
                  "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." -John Morley

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                  • drg
                    Half-cocked
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 1112

                    #10
                    Well I did a little reading on the topic and it does seem that residents of the development can indeed hear the noise from the gun club. And it's not so much an opposition of guns in general as it is a concern for improving or maintaining property value.

                    This kind of thing happens all the time, stadiums and other public-use facilities are rezoned and moved away as residential expansion occurs. In a town that is trying to evolve (expand), this is almost matter-of-course.

                    The gun club uses a lot of space and is economically not a big mover. It will reduce the value of further developments in the area. Such is the nature of capitalism, the almighty dollar speaks. Sucks to be on the wrong end of it, eh?
                    View my feedback here

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                    • Jack_Dubious
                      ubi dubium ibi libertas
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 922

                      #11
                      Originally posted by HoppysMag
                      well, the "niegbors" moved in AFTER the gun club was there. so that just seems to be punishing the stupid with noise. and its not like they are as close as your nieghbor, theres buffer zones... its almost a fact. its because they are anti gun

                      I am not saying the neighbors are right or wrong. i would personally support the gun club. I just dont see where its a proven "fact" that the neighbors are antigun.
                      I wouldnt want to live next to a strip club...but that doesnt make me anti stripper. Hell i love strippers more than guns!!

                      JDub

                      "Automags.org. You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."

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                      • Destructo6
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 549

                        #12
                        People shouldnt automatically assume that just because a city is trying to shut down a Gun Club ,its because the city hates guns.
                        Isnt it just as possible perhaps that the City wants that land, or the neighbors hate the noise?
                        The complaining neighbors, as said earlier, moved in long after (decades) the range was operational. They signed disclosures when they purchased the house. It effected their property values before they owned the property. To complain now seems more than a little bit insincere.

                        As for LA County being anti-gun...with the possible exception of Cook Co, there aren't any more so.
                        God gave you a soul.
                        Your parents, a body.
                        Your country, a rifle.

                        Keep all of them clean.

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                        • PyRo
                          President Bioloaf inc.
                          • Dec 2000
                          • 10186

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jack_Dubious
                          People shouldnt automatically assume that just because a city is trying to shut down a Gun Club ,its because the city hates guns.
                          Isnt it just as possible perhaps that the City wants that land, or the neighbors hate the noise?


                          on a side note to everyone who lives in other states: California really does suck....so i think you should all QUIT MOVING HERE!!! We're full!

                          JDub
                          So if the city wants your house it is alright for them to try and find a way to get you out?
                          The neigbors hate the noise? The people moved in next to a gun club then complained about the noise? Give me a break.

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                          • PyRo
                            President Bioloaf inc.
                            • Dec 2000
                            • 10186

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jack_Dubious
                            I wouldnt want to live next to a strip club...but that doesnt make me anti stripper. Hell i love strippers more than guns!!

                            JDub
                            So are you going to buy a house next to a strip club them complain about it?

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                            • pbzmag
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 1468

                              #15
                              Originally posted by PyRo
                              So if the city wants your house it is alright for them to try and find a way to get you out?
                              It's called imminent domain. It happens alot with houses/land close to freeways.

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