How do we fix AO?

[WicKeD_WaYz]

Yea sometimes in the past ive heard mods say "AO is not a democracy, its a dictatorship" or something like that. I dont know if the mods consider themselves acountable to us is what im getting at.

[vf-xx]

Ok, I realize there was a post suggesting that one read an entire thread before posting. I'll admit to not doing this. (I'm tired and want to get my word in before my attention wanders)

Suggestions:

1) Lurk more Talk less. Works pretty well for me. Granted my post count is lower than it should be, but that's because I spent about a year deleting old posts to keep my count to 1040 (and nobody ever noticed.... )

2) Learn to think for yourself.

3) Just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean that you have to voice it.

4) This is the INTERNET. Don't take it so seriously. Realistically very few of us know each other. I'll grant that there is a certian crowd that is known to go to events together, and I really did enjoy meeting people at Shatnerball.

4.5) Counterpoint to 4. This is where you'll make first impressions on people you may meet at an event someday. Be good.

Ah well. Nobody ever listens to me anymore anyways.



5) Manditory typing skills required. You don't have to be a perfect speller, just make an honest attempt at spelling and basic grammar. :P

[-=Squid=-]

Uhh... Is Cphill still a mod?

[manike]

Is it really broken, or just a matter of things changing over time?

Its not just broke, its pretty darn near FUBAR. A few squeeky wheels weren't oiled, and the whole machine has exploded.

What made AO good?

It used to be fun, laid back, with a very solid group of "old timers" that contributed and made these forums entertaining enjoyable... recently the fun has been gone.

What still makes it good?

A few old timers are still around.

What has changed?

The old timers left for a variety of reasons, not limited to a rather large influx of kiddies who don't understand the AO culture we had a few years ago.

How do we improve it?

Bring back the old AO culture, it won't happen by coddling newbies and ostrisizing old timers.

---Fred

Good post.

AO was always something very special, but it seems that recently it's become more like one of the things 'it' professes to be better than. I see very few differences between the attitude and posters here as compared to PBN, and many other forums. This place used to be different. But it doesn't seem to be any different to me now.

It's very confrontational and abusive here. The 'nice and friendly' atmosphere that used to make AO so awesome doesn't exist as much, maybe it does still in part, but the excess of abuse and confrontation has smothered it?

People don't go out of their way to be nice, like they used to, now they seem to go out of their way to be nasty.

Maybe everyone should think twice before posting.

[Dubstar112]

Why dont we impliment some democracy. Sure somone unknown pays the bills, and since I dont see them here as an admin on a regular basis, it should be up to the majority of active users to name somone they believe has the ideas for the forum that they believe in.

All the current mods should make short and quick note of things they would plan to change if they were to get the ability to be called "leader". If they cant come up with a plan that is different than eachothers, then they werent creative enough.

[fire1811]

Why dont we impliment some democracy. Sure somone unknown pays the bills, and since I dont see them here as an admin on a regular basis, it should be up to the majority of active users to name somone they believe has the ideas for the forum that they believe in.

All the current mods should make short and quick note of things they would plan to change if they were to get the ability to be called "leader". If they cant come up with a plan that is different than eachothers, then they werent creative enough.

it would be a popularity vote which normally isnt the best person for the job

[Dubstar112]

Uh, thats what a vote is isnt it? Who is more popular, and PROPOSES the best plan. The best plan is nothing without somone who has motivation and visa versa.

[fire1811]

I understand that but IMO I think it will be more of a I like this guy no matter his plan.
but thats just my opinion

[Dubstar112]

I see what you are saying, but I think its worth a shot. If it fails then it fails. AO is no stranger to failure. Atleast aslong as i stay here

[bofh]

Well, I think somebody thinks the first thing we should do, is remove cphillip from the moderation team.

Curious.

[vf-xx]

Why dont we impliment some democracy. Sure somone unknown pays the bills, and since I dont see them here as an admin on a regular basis, it should be up to the majority of active users to name somone they believe has the ideas for the forum that they believe in.

All the current mods should make short and quick note of things they would plan to change if they were to get the ability to be called "leader". If they cant come up with a plan that is different than eachothers, then they werent creative enough.

I think a democracy here on AO would just further divide the ranks. Just look at real politics today. I really don't want to mess with that here.

[Dubstar112]

I think the problem is there is no ranks.

Every new member comes aboard with the same influence in a situation like this.

I also feel the age limit has somthing to do with this whole issue. Keeping everything PG-13? well have you seen the maturity level of an average 13 year old on here, its not what I call good.

[Benfica4ever]

I havent been here for a while and the reoson pretty much is every time i come here i see completly random posts. back when pyro was a post whore it wasent to bad becuase his posts at least had words and not smily faces. his had a point to it and was funny. Now its just the most retarded thing i have ever seen. And yes it pretty much is from the new people comming being very immature.

[SpecialBlend2786]

Well, I think somebody thinks the first thing we should do, is remove cphillip from the moderation team.

Curious.

what the hell is going on
Where did uncle phil go

[CoolHand]

what the hell is going on
Where did uncle phil go

Bummer.

Heavy casualty.