How do we fix AO?

[Miscue]

I'm in agreement, Muzik. Suggestions on who should run what forum? I have my opinions, but looking for outsiders.

I can't make any administrative changes... but I'm hoping that someone who can is paying attention to all this.

[teufelhunden]

Revamp the mod staff. I'm not going to name names as to who I think should stay and go, but I feel that the mod staff needs a good looking at.

I will, however say that when he returns, if he wants, Army should be put at the top of the list.

[bofh]

What still makes it good?

The AO events and the people that go to them. If it wasn't for the fact that there are a select group of people that I know would be at events, I doubt I would be on AO or go to the events.

• Cut down the number of mods, or, assign different forums for each to moderate. They can not stray from that forum

• For a small yearly fee give each dealer his own forum under the "dealers" forum. The dealer mods this forum and can post anything within the rules in it.

And finally (for now), have a zero tolorance policy.

All good ideas I think.

AO did loss a lot when non-AGD zealots came in. The site moved from a AGD marker site, to a paintball site. Lots of people came aboard, and it stopped being family as much.

And I think, instead of less mods, you need more mods. and Meta-mods, ie mods who watch the mods.

[SAW]

How do we improve it?

• Rewrite the rules. Start with an entirely clean slate.

• Remove file attachments.

• Keep the place PG (not PG-13). This means scrap the "Hot Chick Thread"

• Revamp the cuss filter add some words, define some words better, and take out some words.

• Cut down the number of mods, or, assign different forums for each to moderate. They can not stray from that forum

• Revamp the forums. Remove some, rearrange others and add some. They do not flow right, the groups they are in don't make sense, etc...

• Find a forum crack that will lock threads older than a certain date. This way really old threads can not be resurrected

• For a small yearly fee give each dealer his own forum under the "dealers" forum. The dealer mods this forum and can post anything within the rules in it.

• For dealers who do not want to pay this fee, the dealer forum has restrictions, such as one thread for all their products, only new threads would be for specials. This would have to be thought through some more.

And finally (for now), have a zero tolorance policy.

That's a very clean, concise idea. Muzik gets my (humble) vote.

[matt-o]

i think alot of the problem is that some members see this as a "magowners.org" whereas alot of the newer players see it as a "magorientedPBN.org". but i can at least say for AO that were not at the level of PBN yet, i mean the worst we have here is some people getting pissed at the mods, which is kinda to be expected when they have to ban people, whereas on PBN almost every thread in small talk has the phrase "go drink bleach" in it. there just plain old A-holes over there
im trying to say that its not as good as it used to be, but not bad my my standards
i do think some more cheerful mods would be nice though, some of the current ones are on a little bit of a power trip

[maxama10]

i dont know if this has been previously stated, but the first page in the members list have 0 posts from most of the members. http://www.automags.org/forums/memberlist.php?
i feel members should be encouraged to post, rather than right now i feel like im being discouraged to post.

max

[Kevmaster]

All this makes me wonder...just weeks ago I was willing to do anything to ensure AO's survival and keep AO afloat. If needed, I would have paid a lot of money to help AO.

Now? **** It.

[brianlojeck]

I think TooDamnSweet needs to give back some of that AO spirit. ;-)

[teufelhunden]

All this makes me wonder...just weeks ago I was willing to do anything to ensure AO's survival and keep AO afloat. If needed, I would have paid a lot of money to help AO.

Now? **** It.

Swear filter activation. Banned.

[xXHavokXx]

I think less mods, more clear cut rules, more pics of hot women! See any flaming in the hot chick thread? Nope.


Seriously, more hot chicks. What's wrong with appreciating the desgins of a higherpower or nature and a healthy way to relieve stress after a long day of work. If you're offended by boobs then look around all women have them and some men, it's natural, nothing evil or devisive about it. If you dont like long hair, legs, butts, stomachs or arms then again, seek help. This isn't afghanistan women and men can show off their skin and it be an appreciation of hard work, genetics , and photoshop.

Like the swear filter. Make it like prime time TV, no one cares about *** and ***** anymore. Or damn, if you can say it on ABC, NBC, CBS or Fox (screw UPN) it should be fair game. For those who say: but my 8 year old kids read this forum and I don't want them learning those words. Pull them out of school, my cousins in kindergarten and 1st grade know how to properly use about all of them. Public school is loaded with vocabulary enhanced kids. Plus it's just a word, no one dies, no one's soul will be cast into the lake of fire to burn eternally with the minions of Satan and the Gardner brothers from reading a word.

I came to AO due to the chill attitude and incredibly intelligent people, AGD, manike, pbx ronin, 1DE, army, albinonewt, kev, thordic, ricker, markm , slarty, jeffy cancon, boski, cphil, miscue, coolhand, rouge, and many many others have provided lots of intelligent convos and different insights into things. With alot of them now gone it's kinda lost its flavor.

I think continuing the relaxed non gestapoesque atmosphere is best. I left PBN because in the angel forums if you mention something anti-HK youd get your post deleted and possible banned.

[SpecialBlend2786]

Sad to say it but...

get rid of the friendly corner. it isn't friendly anymore, and 99.99% of the bans have been due to posts over there.

[fcpchop]

i think what muzik said is a great idea BUT it should be a totally new forum. AO is AO we shouldn't change it, it would be like gettin rid of the good times we had here. Just start a new forum. Oh and dont scrap the hot chick thread .... plz

Ps: I like xXHavokXx's idea of the easing up a bit on the curse filter. It should be a forum for mature invited users, so minor cusses really shouldn't be such a problem, just no really bad cusses.

[thecavemankevin]

well, i was banned....then un-banned?? Well i think i will take a break from AO for a while. Good luck to ya all. I hope AO can atleast recover to some extent...perhaps a shadow of it's former self?

I never hated any of you....just disagreed on a regular basis with a couple.

I'm going to lurking till i and everyone else cools off a bit


My final suggestion is have full disclosure for bannings and closing of threads. If a thread is closed, then the mod closing it should say why it was closed in the final post. If someone is banned, then in the thread/post they made, say why they were banned.

Good luck my brothers

[fire1811]

Im about tired of all the "farewell" threads too.

If you want to leave, JUST LEAVE

you dont pay to be here. THEY pay all the bills, so they get to make the rules.

and sorry to say but 90% of the bans that I have seen both sides of the story deserved it.

were there a few shaddy ban's sure.

remember this is the internet people.

I think most have you have seen the internet argument race picture

[1stdeadeye]

I came to AO due to the chill attitude and incredibly intelligent people, AGD, manike, pbx ronin, 1DE, army, albinonewt, kev, thordic, ricker, markm , slarty, jeffy cancon, boski, cphil, miscue, coolhand, rouge, and many many others have provided lots of intelligent convos and different insights into things. With alot of them now gone it's kinda lost its flavor.

I think continuing the relaxed non gestapoesque atmosphere is best. I left PBN because in the angel forums if you mention something anti-HK youd get your post deleted and possible banned.

He called me incredibly intelligent!