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  • mcveighr
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    • Feb 2003
    • 861

    #16
    He was a smart guy, pretty popular among communists/revoulutionists.

    He just kinda became a symbol.


    I don't like the morons that wear his image now. They pay 30$ for a 4$ tshirt with 30 cents of silkscreening, thats capitalism for ya.

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    • chairman_mao
      Boom Bazooka Joe
      • Nov 2003
      • 1032

      #17
      Originally posted by mcveighr
      He was a smart guy, pretty popular among communists/revoulutionists.

      He just kinda became a symbol.
      Much of the reason he became a symbol to communists is because of his dedication to practicing the tenetsof communism. He lived a relatively simple life. While many of the revolutionary leaders were getting reich and living a "high" life he refused fancy cars and a large salary. On the flip side he was disgusted by those who did not live the 'dream" (Fidel included). Due to this he was quick to judge and had no qualms about passing sentence on others.
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      • matt-o
        eater of babies
        • Aug 2003
        • 910

        #18
        i think its rediculous that a ton of white republican rich kids wear shirts, hats, etc with his likeness on it. first of all republicans and commies dont mix, heck democrats and commies dont even mix. second the irony of buying che mirchandise is just top notch, you know with a capitalist shirt company selling a communist's image for their own profit. third all but 1/20th of the people who wear that crap even know anything about what he was involved in, they think he was like marley going around smoking blunts all the time (though im sure thats exagerated (sp?) too). kids in highschool are such hypocrytes, and im not some emo scode so dont say it.
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        • RetroEclipseMan
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          • Jun 2002
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          #19
          Not sure if anyone has checked out the movie The Motorcycle Diaries which is about his journy through South America on a motorcycle with his friend. Kinda interesting take the events that contributed to his future beliefs. Not really sure how close it followed real events or the book but it was a good watch none the less.
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          • Fixion
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            • Aug 2003
            • 815

            #20
            Originally posted by RogueFactoryKid
            is that the guy thats on Maddox homepage?
            Yes
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            • cockerkiller68
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              • Feb 2005
              • 379

              #21
              I'm sorry, but if I had the chance I woulda gunned him down too.

              I'm sick of "Americans" giving respect to communists and dictators. If you think that's such a good idea, move the *hades* to frikin Cuba. Live under Castro and see how you like it.

              Sorry that all you good Americans have to hear this crap...someone needs to say it though.

              Long live a democracy inside a republic!!! Long live capitalism,
              long live the USA



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              • Google Spider
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                • Feb 2005
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                #22
                He copped a pretty rough deal... Go & see Motorcycle diaries. all about him in earilier years.

                You have to understand what I was like in South america/latin America in those days... you cant just look at someone like him from your nice middle class American home & push what you believe onto him!! that part of the world in those days was hell on earth. So dont sprout off on something if you dont understand it. The whole red under the bed senario was a witch hunt.

                If you think the commies were bad Than we were just as bad. (I dont believe in their pollitical belief either btw) We did some pretty bad stuff & pushed our ideas on other countries just the same as they did...
                Last edited by Google Spider; 02-17-2005, 01:56 AM.
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                • cockerkiller68
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                  • Feb 2005
                  • 379

                  #23
                  He copped a pretty rough deal... Go & see Motorcycle diaries. all about him in earilier years.

                  You have to understand what I was like in South america/latin America in those days. So dont sprout off on something if you dont understand it. The whole red under the bed senario was a witch hunt.

                  If you think the commies were bad Than we were just as bad. (I dont believe in their pollitical belief either btw) We did some pretty bad stuff & pushed our ideas on other countries just the same as they did...

                  Who's we??

                  Are you American?

                  Don't base your beliefs off a movie...not real...and no we (USA) didn't.

                  Not trying to flame...we better end it or we'll get shut down....actually please, shut this thread down!!



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                  • Google Spider
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                    • Feb 2005
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by cockerkiller68
                    Who's we??

                    Are you American?

                    Don't base your beliefs off a movie...not real...and no we (USA) didn't.

                    Not trying to flame...we better end it or we'll get shut down....actually please, shut this thread down!!
                    No wonder countries Dislike the Yanks......... You guys are arrogant And self absorbed. You look apon the world like you own it. You teach American History & bugger all else. Try reading something other than your norrow minded american Idealistic dribble & you might learn something.

                    Not everything that YOUR country does is right. & not everything other countries do is wrong. just because someone has a different perspective to you doesnt mean he is wrong and you are right.........It is just a different opinion & why do you want the thread closed??? because someone has a different view to this subject!! that is norrow minded. Go and see the movie, read his books read up on this guy, hi pollitical belief shouldnt be why you hate him. I bet you know nothing about what he did & what he stood for, I bet its just that somone said he was a commie.

                    BTW dont patranise me by saying WE like you & your Country are God... Narrow minded belief
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                    • White_Noise
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                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1295

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Google Spider
                      No wonder countries Dislike the Yanks......... You guys are arrogant And self absorbed. You look apon the world like you own it. You teach American History & bugger all else. Try reading something other than your norrow minded american Idealistic dribble & you might learn something.

                      Not everything that YOUR country does is right. & not everything other countries do is wrong. just because someone has a different perspective to you doesnt mean he is wrong and you are right.........It is just a different opinion

                      quoted for the truth......


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                      • cockerkiller68
                        Ban Proof b/c I'm so nice!
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 379

                        #26
                        No wonder countries Dislike the Yanks......... You guys are arrogant And self absorbed. You look apon the world like you own it. You teach American History & bugger all else. Try reading something other than your norrow minded american Idealistic dribble & you might learn something.

                        Not everything that YOUR country does is right. & not everything other countries do is wrong. just because someone has a different perspective to you doesnt mean he is wrong and you are right.........It is just a different opinion & why do you want the thread closed??? because someone has a different view to this subject!! that is norrow minded. Go and see the movie, read his books read up on this guy, hi pollitical belief shouldnt be why you hate him. I bet you know nothing about what he did & what he stood for, I bet its just that somone said he was a commie.

                        BTW dont patranise me by saying WE like you & your Country are God... Noarrow minded belief

                        Tu eres Cubano? Tu sabes la vida de Cuba? Tu sabes Fidel? no

                        Tu no sabes nada!! Learn a little real history about him killing innocent people on purpose. No I didn't say WE like we are God, I simply quoted you saying WE as if you were American. You are not American, simply put, you are NOT WE.

                        PS: I'm glad that now I see what your true colors are. Read through the thread again...without editing anything...and look at your reaction. Pretty childish I must say. The reason I wanted this thread closed is b/c it's pretty much against the forum rules to bring up topics that start a flame war. If you would like to continue this conversation please do it through PMs or email. Thank you.



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                        • Google Spider
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                          • Feb 2005
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by cockerkiller68
                          Tu eres Cubano? Tu sabes la vida de Cuba? Tu sabes Fidel? no

                          Tu no sabes nada!! Learn a little real history about him killing innocent people on purpose. No I didn't say WE like we are God, I simply quoted you saying WE as if you were American. You are not American, simply put, you are NOT WE.

                          PS: I'm glad that now I see what your true colors are. Read through the thread again...without editing anything...and look at your reaction. Pretty childish I must say. The reason I wanted this thread closed is b/c it's pretty much against the forum rules to bring up topics that start a flame war. If you would like to continue this conversation please do it through PMs or email. Thank you.

                          I just added lines I didnt change anything... Origanally I posted to say He originally wasnt as bad as ppl made out.. And as for the WE thing... You Country & Mine Had the same attitude towards all Communists. Thats where the We came from. You jumped on your high US of A horse & started trying to belittle me just because I didnt live in your country.... We (Australia) have been friends with you for decades... god help us if we were communists
                          You might want to force me to conform to your ideals
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                          • skife
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                            • Feb 2003
                            • 2769

                            #28
                            che the revolutionary..... whats wrong with revolution? (besides i probably spelled it wrong)




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                            • matt-o
                              eater of babies
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 910

                              #29
                              Originally posted by cockerkiller68
                              Who's we??

                              Are you American?

                              Don't base your beliefs off a movie...not real...and no we (USA) didn't.

                              Not trying to flame...we better end it or we'll get shut down....actually please, shut this thread down!!
                              my thread does not deserve to be shut down because of idiots, this isnt like a republican vs democrat thing it is communist vs. democratic, if anything. i think that we press american democracy on others because it worked so well for us. i dont think that we should use the military to do it though.
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                              • Aegis
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                                • Dec 2002
                                • 596

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Google Spider
                                He copped a pretty rough deal... Go & see Motorcycle diaries. all about him in earilier years.
                                I'm not clear on this - are you basing this opinion on the hollywood movie or your own research?
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