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  • Google Spider
    Registered User
    • Feb 2005
    • 4

    #31
    Originally posted by Aegis
    I'm not clear on this - are you basing this opinion on the hollywood movie or your own research?

    God No, not on a movie: I did a project on him when I was still at school back in the late 70's
    Im hardly going to tell someone to read all the books etc that I did. But the Movie followed similar lines to what happend to him b4 he became interested in his pollitical belief!

    South america in the 50's human rights were not an issue Companies & pollitical parties were corrupt & exploited the workforce. If you stood up against them you went missing. Che saw this & wanted to make a change..

    For the record again It doesnt matter what side of the pollitical arena you stand, if either side is corrupt/exploiting the population. People want justice he saw an opportuinity to overthrow Cuban Dictator Fulgencio Batista.. & it worked... Too bad Fidel Castro was just as bad
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    • myangelrocks
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      • May 2002
      • 106

      #32
      Originally posted by mcveighr
      He was a smart guy,.....
      yeah except for that whole pro commie thing

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      • Athius
        Registered User
        • Apr 2003
        • 533

        #33
        He was a great man he believe that latin america should be united no borders or anything and was against United States imperialism.



        And Fidel is not evil or whatever the hell you guys think he just havent bend over to give his *** to the US that's why US is against him.

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        • cockerkiller68
          Ban Proof b/c I'm so nice!
          • Feb 2005
          • 379

          #34
          Originally posted by Athius
          He was a great man he believe that latin america should be united no borders or anything and was against United States imperialism.



          And Fidel is not evil or whatever the hell you guys think he just havent bend over to give his *** to the US that's why US is against him.

          Insert Germany and Hitler into sentence. Just for fun.



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          • Athius
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            • Apr 2003
            • 533

            #35
            Originally posted by cockerkiller68
            Insert Germany and Hitler into sentence. Just for fun.

            For me Hitler was a great leader but he took too seriously facism. And one thing that you didnt know when Hitler got all the jews in concentration camps Europe supported him 100%.

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            • cockerkiller68
              Ban Proof b/c I'm so nice!
              • Feb 2005
              • 379

              #36
              For me Hitler was a great leader but he took too seriously facism. And one thing that you didnt know when Hitler got all the jews in concentration camps Europe supported him 100%.
              All I have to say is WOW!!

              If you believe all of Europe supported him, I've got something to sell you.

              I don't know how else to respond to this...but...many of you on here need to seek help.

              What happened to our times when we sit and debate the character of Hitler and Chevara.



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              • Rooster
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                • Oct 2000
                • 1069

                #37
                "You look apon the world like you own it."

                We do.

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                • mcveighr
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 861

                  #38
                  yeah except for that whole pro commie thing
                  I don't see anything wrong with that, and dont compare hitler to him, thats quite the slap in the face.

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                  • mcveighr
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 861

                    #39
                    this isnt like a republican vs democrat thing it is communist vs. democratic, if anything
                    Actually its communist vs capitalist, you can have a democratic communist society.

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                    • Athius
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 533

                      #40
                      Originally posted by mcveighr
                      Actually its communist vs capitalist, you can have a democratic communist society.


                      Yes that is called socialism.

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                      • xXHavokXx
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                        • Aug 2003
                        • 860

                        #41
                        Originally posted by mcveighr
                        Actually its communist vs capitalist, you can have a democratic communist society.

                        No you can have a democratic soliast state but not democratic communist as communism is the authoritarian socialist state.

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                        • mcveighr
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 861

                          #42
                          Yes that is called socialism.
                          Socio democracy isnt it?

                          No you can have a democratic soliast state but not democratic communist as communism is the authoritarian socialist state.
                          You can argue that, it depends on your definition of democracy.

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                          • MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata
                            Another One Bites The Dust
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 2246

                            #43
                            Lets look at it simply as throughout the early to mid 20th century. We meddled quite often in the affairs of Latin American countries, using the Monroe Doctorine as some sort of reason.

                            Basically it began under Taft with his belief in "dollar diplomacy", we would invest our money, using companies such as standard oil in foreign countries in order to gain some power in that region, and the pro-us dictators would give us natural resources, and then pocket the profits, thus leaving his people high and dry.

                            Then once the people such as revolutionaries, would rally their people in order to dispose the dictator and use their plentiful resources to further their own good rather then to help the US and the dictators. The businesses would cry wolf, and the marines wouild be sent in.

                            During the early 20th century, we had forces in Cuba, Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, as well as a few other Latin American countries, at one time or another.
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                            • 1stdeadeye
                              Still around????
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 8501

                              #44
                              Originally posted by fcpchop
                              i still dont get why he is a shirts and posters and stuff, it makes no sense. Who started that fad?

                              Stupid hippie liberals who want to "act" like revolutionaries. Also the uninformed stupid people who thought he was hip without knowing who he killed and what he did!

                              Hats off to the CIA for whacking that nut job. Now they need to go take care of Chavez in Venezuela!

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                              • matt-o
                                eater of babies
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 910

                                #45
                                Originally posted by mcveighr
                                Actually its communist vs capitalist, you can have a democratic communist society.
                                i dont think you can because then people will push their own agenda to make themselves do better than the rest, its human nature. fidel and che were killers, they murdered many people, the only difference is that che had something he was working towards for latin america, castro was selfish. i dont think che was a good man though, he didnt have to murder people to get his ideals across
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