Pics from SW: Episode III

[SCpoloRicker]

I still disagree with this. The way I see it, Vader is the one who "balances" the force. Until him there were an overwhelming number of Light Jedi, and few Dark Jedi. After he slaughters most of the Jedi, very few are left, in fact, we are only really shown 2 in the movies (Obi-Wan and Yoda), which is perfectly balanced with the 2 Dark Side masters (Vader and Palpatine).

So, IMO, Vader is the one who brought balance to the Force, and Luke is just upsetting that balance, albeit back towards the Light Side.

I originally thought Vader was the chosen one as well. Then I read Lucas' plot treatment, and some of his comments relating prequels to OT, and now I understand how Luke is the chosen one.

Lucas has stated multiple times that OT Vader is not as powerful as a Jedi Knight of the Republic would have been...

[Glickman]

one thing i wouldve liked to have seen in this last one was the super battle driods be much harder to take out. i liked how they really kicked *** in galaxies, wouldve been nice if they gave the jedi a run for their money, but of course not

[rkjunior303]

I originally thought Vader was the chosen one as well. Then I read Lucas' plot treatment, and some of his comments relating prequels to OT, and now I understand how Luke is the chosen one.

Lucas has stated multiple times that OT Vader is not as powerful as a Jedi Knight of the Republic would have been...

this would go back to episode IV where Vader and Obi-Wan are dueling.... Vader doesn't flat out defeat Obi-Wan,he lets him win..

[Lohman446]

Hmm... I cant beleive Im discussing this..

Maybe the force naturally balances...

So with OB1 alive Luke could go either way, as its pretty balanced Yoda/Palapatine OB1/Vader

But when OB1 sacrifices himself the force must rebalance itself, so Luke tends towards the light side even in his trials? I mean, after all why would OB1 let Vader kill him otherwise?

[Vex]

Hmm... I cant beleive Im discussing this..

Maybe the force naturally balances...

So with OB1 alive Luke could go either way, as its pretty balanced Yoda/Palapatine OB1/Vader

But when OB1 sacrifices himself the force must rebalance itself, so Luke tends towards the light side even in his trials? I mean, after all why would OB1 let Vader kill him otherwise?

It's not even that, because if you use that rationale, then you also have Leia as another Force-sensitive, therefore, the Dark to Light ratio is still off-balance. Obi-Wan sacrificed himself for Luke. He knew that he could guide him better if he were one with the Force, and in order for that to happen, he had to give himself to the Force. Luke is the chosen one, because he does bring balance--not the balance of equal light side to dark side; but balance because the Force is not being ripped in two different directions anymore. You don't have any more constant battles of Light vs. Dark. There is calm and serenity; therefore, balance.

[fire1811]

It's not even that, because if you use that rationale, then you also have Leia as another Force-sensitive, therefore, the Dark to Light ratio is still off-balance. Obi-Wan sacrificed himself for Luke. He knew that he could guide him better if he were one with the Force, and in order for that to happen, he had to give himself to the Force. Luke is the chosen one, because he does bring balance--not the balance of equal light side to dark side; but balance because the Force is not being ripped in two different directions anymore. You don't have any more constant battles of Light vs. Dark. There is calm and serenity; therefore, balance.

I dont know I think vader got stronger after taking OB1's quickening.

[Vex]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Good one fire!!!

"I'll take your quickening, and your lightsaber, beeyatch!"

[adam_61550]

I always thought Vader was the chosen one for killing the Emperor and sacrificing himself. In that way he brought balance to the force and gave Luke the chance to rebuild the Jedi Order.

[xXHavokXx]

Depends on the midichlorian counts...x number of good ones and y number of bad ones or something.


Watch in the special editions hes going to edit that **** out.

[Vex]

Depends on the midichlorian counts...x number of good ones and y number of bad ones or something.

Watch in the special editions hes going to edit that **** out.

HUH?!
There aren't "good/bad" midichlorians--unless that's something that Dark Horse made up to go along with their "Sith Magic"...
I HATE DARK HORSE!!

[Vex]

I always thought Vader was the chosen one for killing the Emperor and sacrificing himself. In that way he brought balance to the force and gave Luke the chance to rebuild the Jedi Order.

Nah, the chosen one is Luke, because he helped his father to return to the Light side. Had it not been for Luke, Vader would've continued Force-choking fools for many, many more years!
Luke goes on to become the most powerful Jedi ever.

[Steelrat]

Depends on the midichlorian counts...x number of good ones and y number of bad ones or something.


Watch in the special editions hes going to edit that **** out.

Geez, that would be nice. It sucked finding out that the all-powerful force was nothing more than an infection.

[adam_61550]

Anybody see the new trailer tonight?

http://www.movie-list.net/exclusive/star-wars-ep3-trailer-640x360.mov

(right click, save target as)

(also, not sure if I can get in trouble for posting that link as it's not officially out for anyone but aol and hyperspace users, mods let me know and I'll remove it)

[Vex]

Recorded it off of the telly--very exciting trailer!!

I'm stoked--that's all I have to say!!

[BigEvil]

Anybody see the new trailer tonight?

http://www.movie-list.net/exclusive/star-wars-ep3-trailer-640x360.mov

(right click, save target as)

(also, not sure if I can get in trouble for posting that link as it's not officially out for anyone but aol and hyperspace users, mods let me know and I'll remove it)

WOW the link is gone already!

Yes, the new trailer was hot. Lots of stuff that I hadnt seen or heard of before. The part with the Jedi Council letting Anikin become a member, but not giving him the title of "Master" was interesting.

Here is a new link to the old trailer.

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