We Have A Pope!

[Lohman446]

Fundamentalism will generally go poorly with the American public - be it fundamental Islam, Catholichism, or politics.

[Ov3rmind]

Hoorah for organized religion.

[93civiccpe]

He's just a man...

And I don't see how my religion is affected at all by catholocism. If you look at the history and corruption of the line of popes you would realize that a lot of it ends up being politics. I'm still trying to figure out how a conservative pope will kill the religion, when you just had a liberal pope who actually said he could see how the catholic faith could accept the ideas of evolution into it's faith. Nevertheless, I'm unaffected so I'll stay out of this.

[grw4w34]

He's old and ugly. No wonder he was picked.

[Jakedubbleya]

Fundamentalism will generally go poorly with the American public - be it fundamental Islam, Catholichism, or politics.

duh

[Jakedubbleya]

He's just a man...

And I don't see how my religion is affected at all by catholocism. If you look at the history and corruption of the line of popes you would realize that a lot of it ends up being politics. I'm still trying to figure out how a conservative pope will kill the religion, when you just had a liberal pope who actually said he could see how the catholic faith could accept the ideas of evolution into it's faith. Nevertheless, I'm unaffected so I'll stay out of this.

Oddly enough the corrupt popes were too concerned with being corrupt to actually change any doctrine.

JPII was no more liberal than Benedict the XVI is, they, unlike all of you, understood the basics of catholicism and went from there, Benedict is doing more of a reformation as opposed to the diplomacy of JPII, but still within the boundaries of catholic dogma. Things like womens priesthood, gay rights and abortion are not even real issues to the catholic. They have already been defined, and believe it or not the theology behind them is actually rather sensible, if you take the time to look it up.

once again i site this link for anybody wondering about catholic dogma and its flexibility/history/nature:

http://www.catholic.com/library/Can_Dogma_Develop.asp

in other words if you are going to post on a related topic, please educate yourself first so that i dont have-to babysit this thread.

[Jack_Dubious]

eh its an oldie but a goodie...

[nippinout]

Oddly enough the corrupt popes were too concerned with being corrupt to actually change any doctrine.

JPII was no more liberal than Benedict the XVI is, they, unlike all of you, understood the basics of catholicism and went from there, Benedict is doing more of a reformation as opposed to the diplomacy of JPII, but still within the boundaries of catholic dogma. Things like womens priesthood, gay rights and abortion are not even real issues to the catholic. They have already been defined, and believe it or not the theology behind them is actually rather sensible, if you take the time to look it up.

once again i site this link for anybody wondering about catholic dogma and its flexibility/history/nature:

http://www.catholic.com/library/Can_Dogma_Develop.asp

in other words if you are going to post on a related topic, please educate yourself first so that i dont have-to babysit this thread.

The Catholic religion is not faultless, nor is the Pope. I was raised Catholic and there are some things that I do not believe that the Catholic religion does. Does that make me a sinner? Does that make me a heretic? The Church is not my moral or values system, they just helped shape mine.

I believe the Catholic church IS fallible. I believe the Pope is fallible. He is only human. To say that gay rights and abortion aren't real issues to the church is incorrect. They are issues for the parishoners, that makes it an issue.

You are a Catholic elitist. It is people like you that have pushed me away from church.

[TheTramp]

in other words if you are going to post on a related topic, please educate yourself first so that i dont have-to babysit this thread.

[Thordic]

Well, I would argue that the election of British Prime Minister or Russian President is far more important in terms of world politics, but you never see this kind of attention lavished on those events.

And frankly, I think the importance of the Catholic Church in affecting world events is greatly exaggerated.

The Pope has over a billion subjects, how many people live in England?

[Jakedubbleya]

Im just representing the authentic catholic viewpoint. I havent responded to any of the catholic bashing remarks, and yet when i imply that your ideas are unfounded i am flat out insulted?

Once again i never said i was catholic.

anyway its my lunchbreak ill be back later.

[Target Practice]

Jakedubbya, this needs to be said, even if I have to take a 3-day to say it.

You are a bad Christian which, last time I checked, was one of the MAJOR prerequisites to being a Catholic. You are the reason that Catholics in this country have a bad reputation.

Pope John Paul II made an infallible statement (please all of you flamers look up the infallibility of the pope and its limitations and boundaries before responding to this) regarding women becoming priests.

John Paul made an infallible statement allowing women altar servers. The new "pope" is against women in the curch period (except, of course, as nuns. When they are in that position, they cannot be seen outside of the convent. Bye bye, humanitarian work! Bye bye, spreading Christ's love! Bye bye, ministring to those who haven't heard the Good News, another major tenent of being a Christian and, subsequently, a Catholic)

So, the Beatles, AC/DC, and long hair send us to Hell, huh? Gee, sounds a lot like all of pop culture to me. If pop culture is so bad for us, why then did our previous infallible pope entertain a group of Polish breakdancers? Was he wrong in that? Even better, Sigfried and Roy entertained John Paul II on a separtate occasion. Would you say that our last infallible pope condones and recognizes magic and the occult? If so, I wonder what our new "pope" has to say about that.

I may be back, I may not. I can see where this thread is going, so I might not be able to even post again. So, in short, if this Panzerpope of yours doesn't get his act together, he's going to be losing quite a lot of real Catholics.

"Go in peace to love and serve the Lord."

Go in peace, indeed.

[Steelrat]

The Pope has over a billion subjects, how many people live in England?

Nice try, but that one doesn't hold any water. The catholic church cannot be compared to a nation-state.

[nippinout]

Well, I would argue that the election of British Prime Minister or Russian President is far more important in terms of world politics, but you never see this kind of attention lavished on those events.

And frankly, I think the importance of the Catholic Church in affecting world events is greatly exaggerated.

Did you see the millions of people who gathered in Rome? A massive mob of people, and not one incident of a jerkface. It brought together 200 world leaders. Even the Israeli president and Syrian leaders shook hands.

He wasn't just the leader of a religion, he was a head of state, and a man of peace.

[nippinout]

Im just representing the authentic catholic viewpoint.

You sir do not represent Catholics. You cannot speak for all of us.

Authentic veiwpoint? Only the Pope has the power to be the final say on the interpretation of the Bible. Each Pope can have different interpretations. To say that there is an authentic viewpoint is absurd and ignorant.