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  • WickeDKlowN
    Registered User
    • Jun 2001
    • 3098

    #1

    It was bound to happen sometime...

    So I got this shirt at a concert a while back:


    It was banned from retail sale apparently, and J Mann is no longer in the band, so I figured I better snatch one up before they're gone. After I got it, I didn't wear it to school for a month or two because I figured teachers/administrators would freak out. One day I decided to wear it and nobody, aside from my spanish teacher "not feeling the love," said anything. I figured cool, and kept wearing it pretty often since it was one of my favorite shirts.

    Today, some teacher in the hall, not even one of my teachers, said I couldn't wear it and made me go to my truck to get a hoodie. I was too tired to argue the "patrioticness" of it due to the "Let Freedom Ring" on the back.

    I'm still going to wear it. He's the first person to say anything to me in ~6 months about it so the chances of it happening again are slim.

    Anyway, I think it's stupid that teachers will freak out because there's a gun on a shirt, especially if they just randomly see you in the hallway. They're not going to get in trouble for letting me wear it. If you don't like it, don't look at it.
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  • tony3
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    • Feb 2003
    • 3740

    #2
    Why do you need to attract attention to yourself by wearing a possibly offensive shirt?

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    • Lohman446
      Useful posts: 7
      • Jun 2003
      • 9315

      #3
      Dress codes in schools are at best questionable. They are definetly nto moral, and I find them to be of questionable legality, unless the dress directly threatens safety.

      Public schools are public... paid for by taxes. As such they should nto have the authority to set standards any higher than any other public place. This is not a private place (unless its a private school, then what they say goes) financed by the private sector. As long as tax dollars finance something I do not see how they can enforce a dress code - if you want to hear ti from the radical position "restrict my freedom of expression" - any more than the decency and safety laws of the area allow.
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      • personman

        #4
        They use the excuse that improper clothing can be a distraction and disrupt the learning environment.

        Schools have the power to set rules.. like it or not.

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        • Jakedubbleya
          Don Quixote
          • Mar 2005
          • 631

          #5
          Lohman, thats a pretty extreme train of thought, but i still love ya

          Its a school not a courthouse man, its there for the development of the students. I know WE were too intelligent and understanding to be offended by that kinda stuff, but some kids really are "stupid" and get messed up. So the schools just make it easy and outlaw it.

          edit: Also public schools use more money than your average private school (not the 50k boardign school ones) and yet have vastly inferior results. IMO maby they should start imitating the private school environment.

          Heh, and while we are on the topic of awesome yet outside the lines of politically correct chestwear i thought id link a shirt the Army Rangers (the biggest bad***es in all the world) can be seen wearing/came up with. Just realized most people wont understand the t-shirt, it is a reference to the 72 virgins promised to a muslim martyr (some being terrorists..).

          Last edited by Jakedubbleya; 04-30-2005, 12:40 AM.

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          • WickeDKlowN
            Registered User
            • Jun 2001
            • 3098

            #6
            I know schools can set dress codes and say things are distracting. That dosn't bother me. But I've been wearing it for quite awhile now and no administrators and none of my teachers have EVER said anything to me about it(aside from my spanish teacher joking about it). I could see if I was in his class and he had to look at it all the time and it scared him or something but I'm not. He would have had to see it for <5 seconds had he not made a big deal about it.

            Why do you need to attract attention to yourself by wearing a possibly offensive shirt?
            I don't feel the need to attract attention to myself. I like MRH. I like the shirt. Therefore, I wear said shirt.
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            • behemoth
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              • Nov 2002
              • 7750

              #7
              Originally posted by personman
              They use the excuse that improper clothing can be a distraction and disrupt the learning environment.

              Schools have the power to set rules.. like it or not.
              Its funny that we cant wear hats, but people can have lime green mohawks...

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              • temps
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                • Aug 2002
                • 546

                #8
                Originally posted by Lohman446
                Public schools are public... paid for by taxes. As such they should nto have the authority to set standards any higher than any other public place. This is not a private place (unless its a private school, then what they say goes) financed by the private sector. As long as tax dollars finance something I do not see how they can enforce a dress code - if you want to hear ti from the radical position "restrict my freedom of expression" - any more than the decency and safety laws of the area allow.
                Schools are private...

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                • CKY_Alliance
                  Team Deranged
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 1695

                  #9
                  Yea i know what you mean man i got a electric visual shirt that says F( \)CK (the (\) is a ligthing bolt in two prenteces, its electrics emblem) and it really doesnt say anything the only letters on it are FCK but this one principle has a fit over it. That and my CKY shirt the ones that actaully say CAMP KILL YOURSELF some teachers have made comments which is frigin dumb not like it says go kill yourself..people worry about others to much and take offense to to much.Well i should say American people.....You can go to pretty much any other country and wear whatever you want casue their not all offended by stupid stuff..

                  By the way i love living in america just thought id add that so i dont get flamed.

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                  • Jakedubbleya
                    Don Quixote
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 631

                    #10
                    Originally posted by WickeDKlowN
                    I know schools can set dress codes and say things are distracting. That dosn't bother me. But I've been wearing it for quite awhile now and no administrators and none of my teachers have EVER said anything to me about it(aside from my spanish teacher joking about it). I could see if I was in his class and he had to look at it all the time and it scared him or something but I'm not. He would have had to see it for <5 seconds had he not made a big deal about it.
                    Hey man, like the topic of your thread suggests; "It was bound to happen sometime..."

                    If it becomes an issue, its not worth your time or the teachers, better to just get over it and pick a new shirt.

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                    • Glickman
                      *Insert Witty Phrase*
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 2673

                      #11
                      but someone could argue for wearing a shirt that promotes shooting and killing to something like that shirt, which also idolizes a gun.

                      why do you NEED to wear a shirt with a gun or alcohol?


                      why are you wearing a shirt that idolizes guns in school?

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                      • wad04
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 1207

                        #12
                        I see your point, but after what happened at Columbine and now in minnesota, people are really scared. While you may think its not offensive to other people, it might be.
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                        • Target Practice
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                          • Nov 2003
                          • 3180

                          #13
                          I would regularly wear my H&K shirt with the entire MP line on the back and my local pistol/rifle club shirt to school, and I never got any flak for it.


                          "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --Henry Louis Mencken.

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                          • kosmo
                            KaPTaiN KeNNy
                            • Dec 2000
                            • 1642

                            #14
                            Its none of anyones freakin business why hes wearing it. Hes wearing it damnit, and its his right to do so. Thats what freedom of speech is for, to allow people to express themselves. I dont like what neonazis say, but Id die for their right to say it. Its nobody elses job to enforce their morals on someone else unless theyre being paid to, which a public school teacher is NOT. If you have a problem with that, send your friggen kids to a private school and stop trying to make other people live how you want them to.
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                            • Target Practice
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                              • Nov 2003
                              • 3180

                              #15
                              Originally posted by kosmo
                              Its none of anyones freakin business why hes wearing it. Hes wearing it damnit, and its his right to do so. Thats what freedom of speech is for, to allow people to express themselves. I dont like what neonazis say, but Id die for their right to say it. Its nobody elses job to enforce their morals on someone else unless theyre being paid to, which a public school teacher is NOT. If you have a problem with that, send your friggen kids to a private school and stop trying to make other people live how you want them to.
                              Free Speech doesn't mean you can yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater, though.


                              "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --Henry Louis Mencken.

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