Wholy Moley. Is this true??

[p8ntball365]

and heres the other thing, if you made a paintball to shoot, then do you care if it gets crammed into a full bag or a loose bag?

K,
Your'e comparing inamimate to living things. While paintballs have no emotions, cows do, no matter how simple.

but God put them on earth to help us out,

Says who? Look at the BIG Picture. Yes humans are superior, or we like to think so. But what if there was something more, maybe we are the chickens, the pigs, the cows to another race. How would you feel about being ground into sausage and being put on someones breakfast plate?

[Blazestorm]

We're at the top of the food chain.

You don't see monkeys mass producing bananas larger and tastier so they can enjoy them easier..

We're able to do that, cause we're leet and pwned all the newb species.

I don't think about what I eat, I just eat it, if you're thinking about what you're eating besides how it tastes, you need to rethink why you eat. You eat because your hungry. And because we pwned the newbs, we eat them.

I didn't watch the video because it'd make me sick and not hungry, and I'm hungry and going to go eat my yoko teriyaki beef

[TDonovan]

What are you talking about? Obviously you haven't seen the jeweled cloud of red mist against the sunset; the result of projectile tearing through a gopher, squirel, or coyote at 2500 feet per second.

Pfft, you just don't know art when you see it. Nyetkulturny.

Actually I do, I hunt. The only thing beautiful about it is the stalk, the setup, and the shot, and then the satisfying sound a bullet makes when it hits (you'd be amazed how far away you can hear it). After that, I do not enjoy the fact that the animal suffers and tries to run after it's been hit in the case of a bad shot. The gut pile or the blood is not beautiful either. As surprisingly clean as it is, it's not "pretty" killing something. However it's necessary and it's part of life. Since we ARE the top of the food chain, we feed ourselves with everything below us, it's natural.

Overall the best part of hunting isn't really killing, the stalk is where it's at. I was thrilled just stalking some elk when I had already gotten my antelope. I got so close to the bull elk that I could have chased him down and jumped on his back.

[Eatem Alive]

How would you feel about being ground into sausage and being put on someones breakfast plate?

i sure wouldn't stand around in a field chewing grass, waiting for it to happen. that's why the slaughter and butchering of cattle for food doesn't bother me. the fact that after all of the years of grazing them and then herding them to their death and them not evolving to do anything about it tells me thats all they are good for...besides milk. mmm...ice cream and hamburgers.

[billybob_81067]

What are you talking about? Obviously you haven't seen the jeweled cloud of red mist against the sunset; the result of projectile tearing through a gopher, squirel, or coyote at 2500 feet per second.

Pfft, you just don't know art when you see it. Nyetkulturny.

Wait... you actually do shoot animals and not just at the target range??? From the sound of your posts on the Guns are Fun thread any shooting outside of a target range is so very unsafe and destroys the environment.... Think of all that lead and lead splatter you're depositing on the land you're hunting on.

Way to contradict yourself!

Oh and BTW I do hunt and I do shoot anywhere I damn well please (not just at the target range). I just find it funny that you can post one thing in one thread and something completely different in another thread.

[Eatem Alive]

oh, and if you believe in what the bible says, here is your answer for the eating of animals and cannibalism...

Genesis 9:3
"Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.."

[Target Practice]

Wait... you actually do shoot animals and not just at the target range??? From the sound of your posts on the Guns are Fun thread any shooting outside of a target range is so very unsafe and destroys the environment.... Think of all that lead and lead splatter you're depositing on the land you're hunting on.

Way to contradict yourself!

Oh and BTW I do hunt and I do shoot anywhere I damn well please (not just at the target range). I just find it funny that you can post one thing in one thread and something completely different in another thread.

Actually, if you knew a damn thing about what you are talking about, you'd notice that the only animals that I pointed out were varmints, pests, whose impact on the environment and the threat they pose to ranching and herding interests far outweigh the impact that my 50-grain, copper-jacketed rounds are doing to the environment.

Comparing pest control to HazMat situations brings your ignorance, incompetance, and irresponsibility into a whole new light.

[billybob_81067]

bunch of poop

LOL... Just watched the movie and that is such a bunch of B.S.

They exaggerated everything to the point of ridiculousness. I know for a fact that the cattle industry is not even near anything like they have shown and I'm pretty sure that poultry and pig industries aren't either.

They make it sound like branding and casterating are so cruel, but hey that's how it's been for centuries and that's how it's going to continue to be. And as for the "electric prods" a.k.a. hotshots... how the heck else would you plan on getting a 1500-2000 lb animal to move??? Whisper lovely things in it's ear?

And as for every single point in the movie where they said an animal was still alive while it was being scalded or having it's throat slit... that is pure B.S. I'm sure there are a few cases where an animal makes it through the initial killing stage but almost every shot they showed was of an animal convulsing after death. It just happens... deal with it.

Oh and the dairy cattle being torn away from their babies... the cows calve and then they are kept toghether for about a week or so until the cows colostrom subsides and then the calf is seperated and fed milk replacer which is basically what formula is for a human baby. This process is called freshening the cow and makes them produce more milk. Also the milking machines do not hurt or cripple the cattle... the dairy depends on the cattle for milk so why would they want to harm them? All shots of the dairy cattle who could hardly walk were probably of cows involved in some accident or cows so old that they just got crippled up (happens to humans too).

All in all... what a load of crap.

[billybob_81067]

Comparing pest control to HazMat situations brings your ignorance, incompetance, and irresponsibility into a whole new light.

No actually it brings your ignorance and incompetance to a whole new light... I was just basically quoting what you said in another thread...

Congratulations on contradicting yourself once again!

Oh and the only animals/things I eradicate are pests as well! Why just yesterday we shot two dogs, poisioned hundreds of kangaroo rats, and cleared a few acres of riverbottom land of tamarack. You're preaching to the choir buddy...

[tsc]

No actually it brings your ignorance and incompetance to a whole new light... I was just basically quoting what you said in another thread...

Congratulations on contradicting yourself once again!

Oh and the only animals/things I eradicate are pests as well! Why just yesterday we shot two dogs, poisioned hundreds of kangaroo rats, and cleared a few acres of riverbottom land of tamarack. You're preaching to the choir buddy...

Then you understand the necessity of killing varmints.

Lead spray in the water supply isn't going to kill cows, but a leg broken in a gopher hole gone septic will. Ground squirrels here carry a host of diseases which can transfer to humans. They also tend to carry Bubonic Plague fleas. So I have no problem killing these animals, as it kills off the fleas and the agressive animals they reside on.

You put out poison. Do you think that's only going to kill kangaroo rats? It'll kill anything that eats it. And unless you cleared the rat carcasses, carrion eaters (buzzards, condors, haws, falcons) will eat those carcasses and possibly become poisoned themselves. Quit acting like you're the be-all, end-all of gun threads. It won't make your weenie any bigger.

Sometimes you have to do somethings a little bad to get rid of the big problem. But shooting in the woods for your fun, leaving hazardous trash and materials, killing the bit of woods around where you shoot isn't acceptable. It's irresponsible, and serves no purpose but to make you feel like a big man. You can go do that at a range and minimize your impact on the environment as a whole.

Notice I said minimize, not eliminate. Yes, shooting at a range still impacts the environment. In a controlled, sectioned off area.

[billybob_81067]

Then you understand the necessity of killing varmints.

In no point of my posts did I ever say anything about not understanding the necessity of killing varmints nor did I ever state any concern for the environment (seriously I don't give a kangaroo rats arse about the environment.) I merely pointed out how you hypocrisy and how you contradict yourself your whole point that the target range is the "ONLY" place that is safe to shoot... that is all and no more.

When did I act like I was the be all end all of gun threads? Please... you have posted in the gun threads on A.O. more than I have... and according to you that means you're trying to make your weenie larger???

I laugh at your retardedness...

[tsc]

If dogs were once canines (keep in mind the house I live in has 4 dogs), then we there would have to be a ton of different species of wolves to get what are called purebreed dogs. So really purebreed dogs really aren't pure breed.

There are 2 pure-bred chihuahuas, 1 pure-bred American bulldog (mine), 1 pure-bred English bull mastiff. So there would have to be some sort of dwarf wolf to get a chihuahua?

Um.

Dogs are canines. Domesticated dogs are classified as Canidae Canis familiaris. Canidae is the family name, Canis is the genus of canine, and familiaris is it's species. The common Grey Wolf is known as Canis lupus and is a different species. The housedogs you know split from the wolf bloodline long ago, when smaller, less well adapted wolves were 'domesticated' and used for hunting and flushing purposes.

From the base domestic dog genetics you get selective breeding, and adaptation to regional demands, which, over hundreds of thousands of years, leads to the wide variety of dog breeds we currently have.

Recipe for Chihuahua:


One (1) Arid desert environment
A few small coyotes with a short coat who survive in the heat better, and can fit into burrows to find prey.
Add a few thousand years

Mix well.

Result: A small dog with a short coat which is adapted to heat, is small enough to fit into burrows and find prey.

Domesticate. Inbreed. Breed selectively. Add some more years.

Final output: Little cute yippy dogs people like to carry around in their purses.

This stuff doesn't happen overnight.

[tsc]

In no point of my posts did I ever say anything about not understanding the necessity of killing varmints nor did I ever state any concern for the environment (seriously I don't give a kangaroo rats arse about the environment.) I merely pointed out how you hypocrisy and how you contradict yourself your whole point that the target range is the "ONLY" place that is safe to shoot... that is all and no more.

When did I act like I was the be all end all of gun threads? Please... you have posted in the gun threads on A.O. more than I have... and according to you that means you're trying to make your weenie larger???

I laugh at your retardedness...

I never said a range was the only place to shoot. Please read MY posts and separate them from Target Practice's. He, of course, also never said a range was the only place to shoot.

Ranges are the only SAFE places to shoot, where your negative impact on the enviroment is minimized. I realize you never said you cared about the environment. That's half the point. The fact you don't care about killing the enviroment you have fun in speaks volumes.

I've posted maybe four times in gun threads.

I don't have a weenie. I think it'd be real hard to make it bigger.

[billybob_81067]

I never said a range was the only place to shoot. Please read MY posts and separate them from Target Practice's. He, of course, also never said a range was the only place to shoot.

Ranges are the only SAFE places to shoot, where your negative impact on the enviroment is minimized. I realize you never said you cared about the environment. That's half the point. The fact you don't care about killing the enviroment you have fun in speaks volumes.

I've posted maybe four times in gun threads.

I don't have a weenie. I think it'd be real hard to make it bigger.

I'm sorry I thought you and target practice were one in the same... doesn't he sometimes post under your name???

[tsc]

I'm sorry I thought you and target practice were one in the same... doesn't he sometimes post under your name???

Why would someone use two usernames?

We're dating. He's at my house alot. I'm at his alot. Sometimes we post under each other's names.