Snow is Evil and so is weather below 50 degrees

[maxama10]

I was under the impression that the title of this thread was "Snow is Evil and so is weather below 50 degrees" not "global warming debates never end!"




Seriously though, I WANNA SEE SOME SNOW


/pics or shens

[RogueFactor]

The reason I posted again is to point out that you posted something untrue
about me.
You claimed I said something that I never did.
Now thats the truth.
You cant post it because you know I never said it.
You know, the Bible/dinosaur thing remember Shawn ?

Sure you said it, implicitly.Let me break it down, logically, for you...

Scientific discovery of existence of dinosaurs proves they existed millions of years ago...
You say (allegorically mind you) nothing existed beyond ~6000 years ago

therefore...

Dinosaurs didnt exist.

You get it? Probably not.

Just because youve said afterwards that you believe a theory that the names of 2 creatures in the bible, who arent even conclusively believed among Christians to be dinosaurs, are dinosaurs doesnt mean you didnt say it.

Now thats the truth.

[going_home]

Thumbs down, once again

Sure you said it, implicitly.Let me break it down, logically, for you...

Scientific discovery of existence of dinosaurs proves they existed millions of years ago...
You say (allegorically mind you) nothing existed beyond ~6000 years ago

therefore...

Dinosaurs didnt exist.

You get it? Probably not.

Just because youve said afterwards that you believe a theory that the names of 2 creatures in the bible, who arent even conclusively believed among Christians to be dinosaurs, are dinosaurs doesnt mean you didnt say it.

Now thats the truth.

The truth is that I never said what is posted below sir, you made it up .

But, according to going_home, there is no mention of dinosaurs in the bible...they dont exist. Thats junk science.

And if you go back and read the post, what I did say is that humans have only been on the earth about 6000 years, according to scripture.
You are a very angry young man arent you.
Mercy goodness.

[RogueFactor]

The truth is that I never said what is posted below sir, you made it up .

And if you go back and read the post, what I did say is that humans have only been on the earth about 6000 years, according to scripture.
You are a very angry young man arent you.
Mercy goodness.

We both know what youve said implicitly and explicitly. You can attempt an end-run around your own words all day. Youve provided nothing to back your position.

Wisdom has escaped your age. At least youth allows for the avoidance of such foolishness.

[trevorjk]

can this thread please die now?

[going_home]

We both know what youve said implicitly and explicitly. You can attempt an end-run around your own words all day. Youve provided nothing to back your position.

Wisdom has escaped your age. At least youth allows for the avoidance of such foolishness.

Ok out right now, you are wrong about what you said that I said.
I never said it at all nor did I imply it at all.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt, that you havent lied, but you just misunderstood
what I said.

Because I never said it and you werent able to post where I said it.
The post in question is still in this thread unedited for all to read.

Dinosaurs fit perfectly in scripture. In fact heres another one for you .
There are very possibly still some here alive on the earth now.
My whole point was this, men have only been here for a little over 6000 years.
I never said the earth was that old.
Scripture says God created the earth in 6 days, but it also says a day is as a thousand
years, and a thousand years is as a day, to God.
But the "scientists" are only just guessing when they say, in your so called
650000 year old "evidence", that the earth is warming.
And that man is causing it. Because there were no men there to gather the data.
And carbon 14 has been proven unreliable decades ago.

So like it or not, your so called "evidence" is only merely just a guess, and not anything
other than a guess. Not a shred of it can be considered evidence.
But is has been great fun chatting with you Shawn.

I just dont like people putting words in my mouth that I never said.
Had to get that straightened out.
Good luck to you sir and all that global warming end of the world stuff.

[Lohman446]

Sure you said it, implicitly.Let me break it down, logically, for you...

Scientific discovery of existence of dinosaurs proves they existed millions of years ago...
You say (allegorically mind you) nothing existed beyond ~6000 years ago

therefore...

Dinosaurs didnt exist.

You get it? Probably not.

Just because youve said afterwards that you believe a theory that the names of 2 creatures in the bible, who arent even conclusively believed among Christians to be dinosaurs, are dinosaurs doesnt mean you didnt say it.

Now thats the truth.

Some people have argued that carbon dating is not reliable. There have been a couple vaunted oopses in doing it (though it was user error). That being said, it is pretty hard to prove that carbon dating works.

[RogueFactor]

Ok out right now, you are wrong about what you said that I said.
I never said it at all nor did I imply it at all.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt, that you havent lied, but you just misunderstood
what I said.

Because I never said it and you werent able to post where I said it.
The post in question is still in this thread unedited for all to read.

No need for benefit of the doubt. You said it. Omission of your position doesnt mean you didnt make the implication. Only that your now attempting to end run your words by defining what you said(after the fact). Even with your new explanation(thousand years is a day), your still only saying that the Earth is 10,000+ years old. Making no difference in the implication.

Ive shown where you implied it. It cant be shown where you posted it, because it wasnt explicit. Ive made this clear.

But the "scientists" are only just guessing when they say, in your so called
650000 year old "evidence", that the earth is warming.
And that man is causing it. Because there were no men there to gather the data.
And carbon 14 has been proven unreliable decades ago.

Nature. The greatest record-keeper of all. Created by God, and without bias. It is god-given evidence. Your blind faith and myopia keeps you from seeing this.

I just dont like people putting words in my mouth that I never said.
Had to get that straightened out.
Good luck to you sir and all that global warming end of the world stuff.

Then Id suggest not implying things you dont intend to. Make your position, and make it clear. As previously stated, youve provided nothing. Youve proved nothing.

By all accounts, youd bibilically be considered a fool. Its how you started and ended this wonderfully "educational" thread. By providing nothing, but contention. Proverbs 18:6.

To that end, they say never to argue with a fool. They will only lower you to their level and beat you with experience. That is certainly the case here. Youve won the foolishness game. You are certainly an expert at it

Some people have argued that carbon dating is not reliable. There have been a couple vaunted oopses in doing it (though it was user error). That being said, it is pretty hard to prove that carbon dating works.

Ice Cores arent radio-carbon dated. Go back and re-read the links to the info on Ice Cores. Youll find that Ice Cores are accurate to many 100,000 of years. Radio-Carbon dating is only accurate to about 60,000 years.

[wjr]

Some people have argued that carbon dating is not reliable. There have been a couple vaunted oopses in doing it (though it was user error). That being said, it is pretty hard to prove that carbon dating works.

Wikipedia says it's been proven. Keep in mind this was just the first test that popped up. I'm sure there's been more then just one.

These effects were first confirmed when samples of wood from around the world, which all had the same age (based on tree ring analysis), showed variance from the expected per minute decay frequency, assuming they had the same 14C ratios. This meant the dating of the samples varied by as much as 700 years. Calibration techniques and tree samples continue to increase the accuracy. Samples are accurate to 'as worst' 700 years.[7]

link to entire wiki article

Edit: Pay no mind to the fact that this is my 666th post.

[going_home]

No need for benefit of the doubt. You said it. Omission of your position doesnt mean you didnt make the implication.

I hope none of the kids that look up to you as an innovator and a leader in the Mag community read your last 3 posts in this thread, especially that last one.
So you are saying you are a mind reader and knew what I implied ?
And there is no need for me to give you the benefit of the doubt ?
(otherwise it would just be a pine blank lie)
And now you resort to name calling because you cant prove that I said what you claim I said?

The point is post where I said it or retract it.
Or if you cant do that then you have just flat out lied.

But then people do get the most angry when they get caught in a lie dont they Shawn ?
It doesnt matter to me one way or the other, and I would just leave this thread die,
but you just keep on personally attacking me when it was you that lied, not me.

I can agree to disagree on the global warming thing, not a big deal,
but you in your last 3 posts are personally attacking me, and now name calling.
Its really not worth it to your reputation sir to vent your anger in that manner.
A lot of kids in here look up to you, you should think about that.
You are the famous one in the Mag community, not me, I'm nobody.

[bentothejam1n]

I can agree to disagree on the global warming thing, not a big deal,
but you in your last 3 posts are personally attacking me, and now name calling.
Its really not worth it to your reputation sir to vent your anger in that manner.
A lot of kids in here look up to you, you should think about that.
You are the famous one in the Mag community, not me, I'm nobody.

dont worry, not a whole lot of people like him after the whole triangle fiasco

[RogueFactor]

I hope none of the kids that look up to you as an innovator and a leader in the Mag community read your last 3 posts in this thread, especially that last one.

I hope they do. All of them. I say what I believe, and I stand by it.

So you are saying you are a mind reader and knew what I implied ?

One doesnt need to be a mind-reader to read what you implied. You really are obtuse to what implicit means. Please look it up. Ive made my position clear.

And now you resort to name calling because you cant prove that I said what you claim I said?

I call a spade a spade. Its not name calling. Its calling it how it is.

The point is post where I said it or retract it.
Or if you cant do that then you have just flat out lied.

Been there, done that. You dont believe it, nothing I can do. Everyone that reads this silly thread you started can make up their own mind. At least my position is backed by evidence. Yours is merely backed by your opinion, attacks on those who dont believe as you, and your personal interpretation of scripture.

But then people do get the most angry when they get caught in a lie dont they Shawn ?

Some get angrier when they are inappropriately called a liar, Alan. Fortunate for me, Ive been around long enough to know that you speak with a split-tongue---so Ive yet to be angry at your words. A liar calling me a liar doesnt invoke my anger.

Anyone here long enough has seen your eBay auctions. You mis-represent your auctions by calling Red & Blue ULE bodies "rare"(http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=320084306235), hoping someone believes that lie and buys it, as there is nothing rare about them. The title of your RT Pro rail auction calls it "ULE Automag Rail" when in fact there is nothing ULE about it(http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=320083947604). You call an item "AGD ULE body" in the title, when in fact its a Stainless Steel body, but make no mention in the subject line or details that its stainless steel(http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=320078881146)

You prey on the weak & uninformed, out of greed. You gouge every customer you can, while simultaneously attempting to rape others by buying the same items at half what they could get. Smart business, maybe? One without integrity.

The only thing to be angry about is that a man professes to be a god-fearing religious man, while doing the things you do. For me, its not anger but passion. A passion to show others that with knowledge, you can expose those such as yourself who are sliver-tongued snake-oil salesman who speaks half-truths. Your auctions speak to your character.

It doesnt matter to me one way or the other, and I would just leave this thread die,but you just keep on personally attacking me when it was you that lied, not me.

Is that your mantra? Say it to yourself enough, and it becomes true? Now I know how you come to your conclusions

Its really not worth it to your reputation sir to vent your anger in that manner.A lot of kids in here look up to you, you should think about that.
You are the famous one in the Mag community, not me, I'm nobody.

Thanks for the advice, but I think its most certainly worth my reputation. I need not vent anger, as there is none to vent. I am merely calling it how I see it.

If kids here look up to me, hopefully they see that I provide evidence and fact to back my position. Not to let someone who is less-informed, but older use that fact alone to establish their position.

You sir, are a charlatan. Hopefully you know what that means so you dont think I am calling you names, as it fits appropriately here.

[going_home]

I say what I believe, and I stand by it.

Still cant post where I said what you claim I said huh.
You have proven my point.
Even when you lie, you believe what you said and stand by it.

[RogueFactor]

Still cant post where I said what you claim I said huh.
You have proven my point.
Even when you lie, you believe what you said and stand by it.

Already have. More importantly...

A liar calling me a liar doesnt invoke my anger.

Is that your mantra? Say it to yourself enough, and it becomes true? Now I know how you come to your conclusions

[going_home]

His Majesty, RogueFactor for President !

Already have. More importantly...

What you didnt do was post what you claimed I said.

But, according to going_home, there is no mention of dinosaurs in the bible...they dont exist.

Did you forget what you claimed I said ?

You have posted about 6 or 7 times since I called you out on it,
and wonder of wonders, you still havent posted where I said it yet !

And you wont be able to either because you just made it up.
You would be a good politician, you should run for president !
Hey that was a great idea !

You would probably be a better one than the last 3.
Hard to be better than Reagan, but Carter, Clinton and the Bushes
wouldnt be a problem for you.