Terrorist in Jersey!! and they used paintball

[SCpoloRicker]

Have I mentioned "get off my lawn!" or how much I hate those darn kids these days?

/give me a reasonable argument
//oh yeah, well...
///HITLER CHRISTIAN FASCIST!!

[bornl33t]

The really funny thing is that Bush is the first president in history that has dealt with an attack on American soil, a MAJOR flood, a war and no support from the other party what so ever.

I think for the cards he was dealt he is a hero. He's not perfect but no one else could have done what he has done. The rest of you are just talk. I'm done here, I've seen no independent thinking or evidence of the claimed open mind.

[Aggravated Assault]

The really funny thing is that Bush is the first president in history that has dealt with an attack on American soil, a MAJOR flood, a war and no support from the other party what so ever.

I think for the cards he was dealt he is a hero. He's not perfect but no one else could have done what he has done. The rest of you are just talk. I'm done here, I've seen no independent thinking or evidence of the claimed open mind.

Ok, Air Assault and Walking Target are at the other end of the spectrum here...Tho their posts were articulated different, The attitude is the same.

Bush is a hero and pretty much done the right thing. Oh, don't agree? You're not an independent thinker and don't have an open mind and I'm not talking to you no more.

How can there be any meaningful discourse if one or both parties has no interest in examining the other sides arguments or ideas?

[BigEvil]

Ok, Air Assault and Walking Target are at the other end of the spectrum here...Tho their posts were articulated different, The attitude is the same. Bush is a hero and pretty much done the right thing.

While there are many of us that frequently drink from the idealogical Cool-Ail pitchers from both sides, right and wrong are not subjective or relative.

Many people have the notion, or at least act like, there is no problem, there is no 'war on terror' and that there are NOT people in the worlds looking to do us as much harm as possible. Many of these people use this for political gain, which only makes it worst. We can sit here and argue or discuss different view points on taxes, school reform, pork barrel project or whatever until we are blue in the face. However, there is one side of the argument that is ACTIVELY seeking America's defeat.

How can you have a rational discussion with people who can not even acknowledge the problem, OR agree that whatever course of action is taken should lead to victory?

I will repspect anyone opinions because in America we can think and say what we want (as long as your not Don Imus). However, just because people are entitled to them does not mean that they are not reckless and dangerous.

[FactsOfLife]

Ok, Air Assault and Walking Target are at the other end of the spectrum here...Tho their posts were articulated different, The attitude is the same. Bush is a hero and pretty much done the right thing.

Oh, don't agree? You're not an independent thinker and don't have an open mind and I'm not talking to you no more.

How can there be any meaningful discourse if one or both parties has no interest in examining the other sides arguments or ideas?

when the other side is OPENLY advocating the defeat of my country when it's at war, I'm done having a discourse with them.

Mostly at this point, I'm staying out of their way and letting them hang themselves with the rope of failure.

[paintballfiend]

...right and wrong are not subjective or relative.

Que?

[SCpoloRicker]

...right and wrong are not subjective or relative.

Que?

Oh lordy, here we go...

[Aggravated Assault]

While there are many of us that frequently drink from the idealogical Cool-Ail pitchers from both sides, right and wrong are not subjective or relative.

Many people have the notion, or at least act like, there is no problem, there is no 'war on terror' and that there are NOT people in the worlds looking to do us as much harm as possible. Many of these people use this for political gain, which only makes it worst. We can sit here and argue or discuss different view points on taxes, school reform, pork barrel project or whatever until we are blue in the face. However, there is one side of the argument that is ACTIVELY seeking America's defeat.

How can you have a rational discussion with people who can not even acknowledge the problem, OR agree that whatever course of action is taken should lead to victory?

I will repspect anyone opinions because in America we can think and say what we want (as long as your not Don Imus). However, just because people are entitled to them does not mean that they are not reckless and dangerous.

Yes, there is a problem right now with people on both sides being closed minded, but I left out what I think the bigger problem is. How we, not only get our information, but how we digest it, form our opinions and have a position on an issue.

Why do so many argue in "sound bytes" or "talking points"? Ok, so those guys got mad at me for saying talking points, but hasn't all of us heard em' before on both sides? And we're programed to go off when someone says a buzzword. It's like everyone takes whatever they hear at face value. If it's Jefferson qoutes or WMDs trucked over to Syria, don't matter, take it and run. Geez, there's a couple people who think Ricker's pushing a conspiricy theory about that tanker exploding...

I don't think all of those of the left are seeking our defeat, I think a lot are just repeating what they see - which is only the headlines. The summary. Reading the first couple of paragraphs and that's it. Got enough information to make my mind up. Some on the right are no better.

We as a society have a major case of ADD.

[geekwarrior]

so left wing wacos and right wing radicals

what is the US suppose to do about Iran

[Lohman446]

so left wing wacos and right wing radicals

what is the US suppose to do about Iran

Start on open and honest dialogue on the issue of Iraq first of all. Iran has stated they want to help - if we annoy Iran and then leave will Iraq ever be stable? It would seem to me we have a need to have them on board with the final solution in Iraq, whatever it may be, just so that it lasts. It leaves us a point to start communication, perhaps to work our way upward from being basically the den of all evil in their minds. More to the point, what can we lose?

[SCpoloRicker]

Geez, there's a couple people who think Ricker's pushing a conspiricy theory about that tanker exploding...

Clearly, this poster is in the employ of MJ-13/Illuminati operation spearheaded by Mossad/CIA/cointelpro. He's trying to detract you all from the truth.

4/29 Truth!!

[Aggravated Assault]

so left wing wacos and right wing radicals

Nah, The people who listen to the wackos and radicals.

Look at this whole thread. It started out about the "Fort Dix six" and paintball. A couple pages later it's about Bush reading "my pet goat" and scrambling jets on 9/11.

Air Assault brought up a good point on page one, but framed his first post around the opinions: america hates people because of their race and religion. The government has fabricated things before (so they probably are now). Government tends to come up with fantastic claims about groups of people. And lastly, we torture our prisoners connected with the war on terror. You know, crap you hear repeated all the time in the media.

Its ADD. When he thought his opinion was being attacked later, sticking to the actual topic was not an option. We're on to oil now. Talking points and buzzwords. Then everybody jumped in the fun

I was laughing my head off for awhile.