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  • NPP
    Registered User
    • Jun 2002
    • 44

    #1

    Hyperframe/Level 10

    Recently added a level 10 bolt to my mini mag, but it just will not work with my hyperframe.

    It appears with the standard bolt moving a lot faster it can force its way over the sear and fire consistently but you get excessive bolt and sear wear,. although at least it fires!

    With the Level 10 starting at a much lower speed it doesn't seem that the hyper frame solenoid has enough power to trip the sear.

    I have tried milling the frame out to give the solenoid more space to get some momentum and upped the solenoid power to maximum, all to no effect. I have also tried three different on/off assemblies (Standard/RT/Centre Flags), every spring in the level 10 pack and the standard main spring.

    Looks like no choice but to dump the frame!

    Any ideas???
  • legion
    Registered User
    • Jan 2002
    • 117

    #2
    You could try shaving your sear assembly down until it fires, it would take awhile, but should work. It probably also wouldnt be the ideal situation. You could also try moving the solenoid forward a little bit (it has about .5mm of play after you unscrew the retention screws) one of those / both of those may fix your problems.

    Legion

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    • NPP
      Registered User
      • Jun 2002
      • 44

      #3
      Tried that

      Still no joy!

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      • 314159
        Registered User
        • Nov 2001
        • 555

        #4
        sounds like a custom board to allow you to adjust sear down time, and a larger cap/power source would do it for you.

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        • NPP
          Registered User
          • Jun 2002
          • 44

          #5
          Custom Board?

          Now your either talking major monies or impossible!

          Which one?

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          • legion
            Registered User
            • Jan 2002
            • 117

            #6
            Hrm, after that you could using a 10.6v recharable (probably not a recomended solution) which may give the solenoid more juice to fire... Otherwise it sounds like time to send it to centerflag..

            Legion

            Proud Owner of:
            Emag #EM01523
            Emag Powered 12v Smoke Warp Feed
            Clear Blue HALO B
            Total Freak Kit 14" Blue AA, SS Back
            68 4500 Flatline
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            • NPP
              Registered User
              • Jun 2002
              • 44

              #7
              Legion

              Thanks for your input.

              I have milled out 2mm around the solenoid to all it the maximum amount of movement, but still no joy. Fires very intermitently.

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              • NPP
                Registered User
                • Jun 2002
                • 44

                #8
                I have tried new batteries, have been suggested the 10.8V rechargeable pack from John Sosta at powerpulse. However I think there is a regulater on the board to limit it to 5v.

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                • fearc7
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 239

                  #9
                  I would just send it back to Centerflag, better them mess it up then you...

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                  • NPP
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 44

                    #10
                    Minor problem.

                    Based in the UK, tournament on the 21st this month and heard that although Centre Flags are good, I doubt they will be able to return it in time.

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                    • legion
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 117

                      #11
                      Have you done any shaving on the sear? If you shave some off the sear where it catches it will move easier (at the expense of wearing your sear faster)...


                      Legion

                      Proud Owner of:
                      Emag #EM01523
                      Emag Powered 12v Smoke Warp Feed
                      Clear Blue HALO B
                      Total Freak Kit 14" Blue AA, SS Back
                      68 4500 Flatline
                      E-Magnum
                      Level 10
                      TL63 Blade Trigger

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                      • Linx
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 202

                        #12
                        Have you turned the power up to 9 in the service mode?
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                        • magstevo
                          AV8ER
                          • May 2002
                          • 175

                          #13
                          You trying to sell your hyperframe?

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                          • NPP
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 44

                            #14
                            Not for sale yet!!!

                            I have tried turning the power up to maximum (9) still no change. Filed down the sear in stages testing it each time until it is worthless.

                            It looks like I have two options.

                            1. Keep the hyper frame, lose the level 10 and go back to the standard bolt, great rate of fire but ball breakages.

                            2. Keep the level 10 and go back to a standard frame. Slower rate of fire but never chop a ball.

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                            • Chigga Meat
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 4

                              #15
                              .....

                              bling bling

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