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  • Maveric08
    Registered User
    • Aug 2015
    • 33

    #1

    Brand new to automags !

    Hi everyone ! I grew up playing paintball it was a family business. Then I went away to college,got married, sold all my gear, had a kid, missed paintball terribly, and decided to get back in. I was a cocker smith and pretty much used them exclusively. Spent some time behind a shoebox shocker and an sft. But I don't really want or like electros. So when I decided to get back into it "at the beginning of the week (lol) " I decided to go mags. I have never owned one and have barely ever shot one. But they are still around when every other company I grew up with is gone, so I thought there must be something to them. I got what I think is a good deal on eBay for a custom classic rt with a vertical body similar to the ule. I've watched a couple videos and the concept behind the marker seems to make sense. Any ways I guess I'm just looking for noob tips and or tricks. I'd like to know how to maximize accuracy and distance since the rof will take care of itself with an rt
    Thanks and happy gunning
    Get some !

    Ps here is the new toy
    Hopefully I did good
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  • vintage
    Registered User

    • Aug 2013
    • 1787

    #2
    oil it every time you use it, helps keep the o rings alive. with today's paint accuracy is not what it used to be. that marker will only run on hpa.

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    • mpsd
      Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

      • Nov 2005
      • 2778

      #3
      You REALLY started with the right foot! Awesome splashed Classic RT! You will have tons of fun with it.

      Advice number 1: have it sent to Tunaman and ask him to install a level 10 bolt and fine tune it for you
      Advice number 2: as vintage said, don't save on oil and you will be happy
      Advice number 3: never put CO2 into it. This valve only works with compressed air

      Good luck and welcome!


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      • Maveric08
        Registered User
        • Aug 2015
        • 33

        #4
        Is that due to the smaller diameter ball ? I have heard most paint is .684 now and as such I've started looking for a barrel kit. Seems like I'll be going the way of the deadlywind fibur. It was disclosed to me that there appears to be a occasional small leak from the banjo. I've ordered a o ring rebuild kit. Anything I should be on the lookout for ?

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        • Maveric08
          Registered User
          • Aug 2015
          • 33

          #5
          Mpsd
          It should be arriving with the level 10 installed and tuned. I do wonder about the sear though it seems like it sticks out of the frame awful far. Supposed to be a stock rt frame.

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          • mpsd
            Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

            • Nov 2005
            • 2778

            #6
            Originally posted by Maveric08
            Mpsd
            It should be arriving with the level 10 installed and tuned. I do wonder about the sear though it seems like it sticks out of the frame awful far. Supposed to be a stock rt frame.
            That's an aftermarket splashed frame but by the looks, it's fine, even though the pic is small. Air it up and try it, before doing anything else, then.

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            • Maveric08
              Registered User
              • Aug 2015
              • 33

              #7
              I was hoping it would be here by Saturday so I could go try it but no luck. I'll let you know how it goes when I gas it up.
              Thanks !

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              • athomas
                Of course it works-its AGD
                • Jan 2002
                • 8039

                #8
                That is an Xmagterror aluminum body on that beast. I suspect it might already have a level 10 bolt in it, especially since it has a pretty significant aluminum body upgrade. Check to see if it has a level 10 or level 7 bolt. Inspect it when it arrives, including dissassembling the valve and checking the orings. Replace any yellowed orings. I suspect they might be good since the gun has had some recent upgrades.

                Get a good high output tank with a high flow rate. You will need an oring kit. Get the X-valve kit, because it has the orings for the level 10. You will need carriers so that you can tune your level 10 bolt. Get a couple of extra bolt springs, the long (red) ones. The red might not be available, so get grey if they aren't. Bolt springs are consumable and do wear out.

                If it has a banjo oring leak, deburr the area around the banjo bolt, including the goove in the bolt where the oring sits.
                Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                • Maveric08
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 33

                  #9
                  Thanks athomas! It is in fact xmagterror with a level ten. Good to know about the o ring kit I ordered a regular rt one so I'll make sure to pick up an xvalve. Ill probably use one entire kit right at the beginning that way I know everything is new. How often do you think I'll go through bolt springs ? Can you tell when they aren't working right anymore?

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                  • Cyco-Dude

                    #10
                    well...normally i would agree with an x-valve rebuild kit for a reactive valve with a level 10 bolt, but the rt classic would be the exception. you need the banjo bolt o-rings, which the x-valve rebuild kit does not include. also, the rt rebuild kit does include two regulator seat o-rings, which are the same size o-rings that you use with the level 10 bolt. since you only need one, you can use the other one for the level 10 carrier if it ever needed to be replaced.

                    although, i'm curious why you would need to get another rebuild kit? did this not come with one already? i recall that it did...unless they were used rebuilding the valve. as for the paint / barrel...who cares. use that barrel; it matches the gun!

                    finally...this is a lot of gun for a first-time automag owner, i have to say. you might have been better off with a classic automag just to test the waters...reactive valves, and rt classics in general, can be a little more finicky. it sure is a looker though! also, you could have bought it for a bit less if you checked the forum first lol. seller would have made more money to...would have been a win-win.

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                    • JKR
                      Stainless Steel 'Mag Lover
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 392

                      #11
                      As a general rule of thumb on bolt springs, if they do not extend beyond the end more than say by 1/8", then you should replace it. Length of the life of a spring is kinda tough but you should easily get 15 cases out of one before having to worry about replacement. I have a Classic valve and adhere to the rule of thumb mentioned earlier and never pay attention to shot count. It is substantial, however.

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                      • vintage
                        Registered User

                        • Aug 2013
                        • 1787

                        #12

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                        • Maveric08
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 33

                          #13
                          Well dang ! Too bad I didn't know about this forum BEFOREHAND but live and learn. Good news is now you all know the exact gun/issue that I'll be receiving. So hopefully if I'm hitting a wall, we can all find a solution. I do like the ule mags better for there simplicity and non proprietary parts. But one of the main reasons I got back into paintball was feeling nostalgic. I looked at having a new mag built by AGD but it cost more then I initially wanted to spend. THEN I saw this beauty. It had the classic nostalgia AND modern usefulness so I was smitten. Hopefully not bitten guess we will see. And the reason that I'll buy and keep several more kits is if I have it I won't need it. And be prepared. I hope AGD stays in business for many many more years but judging by the stripped down inventory of the web site I don't think so. It seems like the banjo is the weak link in the classic system and because I do like to tinker I picked up a dirt cheap classic 68 that I will probably end up x modding. I have it in mind to make it stealth nothing fancy at all then if I'm ever playing and people get to antsy about the classic I can play with my "backup" heheh

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                          • kfletch
                            Registered User

                            • Jun 2010
                            • 234

                            #14
                            As far as the foregrip rubber spinning, try some electric tape under the rubber to give it something to grip to. If you want to keep that barrel but want the freak option, there is a guy on this forum freak boring stock barrels....

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                            • Maveric08
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 33

                              #15
                              Kfketch I. MUST. HAVE. THIS. how,where do I find this person. Shut up and take my money !!!?!!

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