Brand new to automags !

[athomas]

Cyco-Dude does bring up a good point about the banjo orings. If the oring kits were included in the purchase, then you are probably good to go except for the carriers. You will need a set of carriers to tune your level 10 bolt if you ever have to change the powertube carrier oring.

The number of cycles before a bolt spring is worn out is about 30000. You'll notice random "chuffing" and coughing when it happens. If you play walk-on paintball, its not an issue. If you play competition paintball, or play in a big game where you want some guarantee of performance, then you will want to change the spring before it shows signs of wear. The 1/8" of spring showing past the front of the bolt was for the gold spring. The longer red and grey springs stay longer even when they are worn out.

X-modding was for the electronic in an emag. Xmod is an updated program.

[Maveric08]

Sorry I meant that I'll be putting an xvalve and level ten bolt kit into the stock 68 mag at some point

[kfletch]

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?271277-Autococker-barrel-threading-and-freak-boring&highlight=Freak+boring

[Maveric08]

Awesome !!

[Maveric08]

Ok everyone the mag arrived today so I went to the local store and got some air. Upon first gassing it there is In Fact some leak near the banjo. Not a hundred percent sure if it is actually coming from there. Greased banjo and ran about 4-5 drops of oil through the Asa. 20-50 balls latter all leaking stopped. Here are my observations. No idea about velocity because my chronos battery was dead. But it was a full 4500psi 69ci tank and after a bag of 500 it is at about 2000psi where is this in the efficiency range? Didn't chop any paint but did occasionally have a ball come out and just sorta of peeter out of the barrel. Trigger has a ton of side to side motion. And there doesn't seem to be any noticeable rt action.
Any advice is welcome.

[Maveric08]

Got gun did a quick review see earlier post for details please reply with thoughts
Thanks !

[Maveric08]

Ps how do you post video or pictures

[kfletch]

I use photobucket, but any photo hosting site will do. Then just copy and past the link.

[vintage]

Ok everyone the mag arrived today so I went to the local store and got some air. Upon first gassing it there is In Fact some leak near the banjo. Not a hundred percent sure if it is actually coming from there. Greased banjo and ran about 4-5 drops of oil through the Asa. 20-50 balls latter all leaking stopped. Here are my observations. No idea about velocity because my chronos battery was dead. But it was a full 4500psi 69ci tank and after a bag of 500 it is at about 2000psi where is this in the efficiency range? Didn't chop any paint but did occasionally have a ball come out and just sorta of peeter out of the barrel. Trigger has a ton of side to side motion. And there doesn't seem to be any noticeable rt action.
Any advice is welcome.

around 15 balls per cubic inch is standard. level 10 uses slightly more air than level 7. check your detent, it may not be in far enough. more input pressure or shorter on/off pin for rt effect, however all valves rt at different rates and trigger positions. with new o rings it might need broke in a little for more rt effect. can't tell what frame from pics but side to side slop can be shimmed out with patience.

[Cyco-Dude]

But it was a full 4500psi 69ci tank and after a bag of 500 it is at about 2000psi where is this in the efficiency range? Didn't chop any paint but did occasionally have a ball come out and just sorta of peeter out of the barrel. Trigger has a ton of side to side motion. And there doesn't seem to be any noticeable rt action.
Any advice is welcome.

automags are not the most efficient things in the world...2k psi for 500 paintballs seems about right to me though. a ball that flopped out of the barrel...what paint are you using? did you ever notice more than one paintball being fired at once? did you pull the trigger all the way? speaking of benchmark triggers, they do have a bit iof side-to-side play; it doesn't affect anything and it's not noticeable during normal operation (at least for me it's not).

if you want more trigger bounce, you need higher input pressures. either a ninja shp regulator, or just a standard reg with an extra red shim (you get them in a ninja reg rebuild kit) would help. otherwise, just keep playing with it...as the o-rings break in, the pin moves easier and the trigger is easier to bounce. you can also check the length of the on/off pin...it shouldn't be longer than .750" (stock length; although agd supposedly supplies .745" now).

Ps how do you post video or pictures

google...literally. i use picasa for pictures and youtube for video. once uploaded, you can just use the icons above the text box to insert them.

[Maveric08]

Thanks gang I am using some app to keep up to date on this forum so it is t as feature rich as the website. Copying and pasting a link should work though "duh" lol there did seem to be more then one ball towards the end of the 500 shot and it also seemed that the velocity started to noticeably drop off maybe the reg was backing out. I'm looking for a tourney cap lock by the way hopefully to help prevent that. The mag would occasionally sound different kinda like a whoosh don't know if that's user error and I'm doing something dumb with the trigger pull or it it's actually the gun acting up. It is a gi sportz tank can those refs be adjusted ? The paint is gi sportz 2 star as that's what the field I'll be playing the most at uses. It's slightly smaller then my bore but not terrible the ball is loose but it doesn't roll out completely

[athomas]

There are no tourny caps for retro style valves. You can't turn the regulator adjustment without wrenches when the valve has no air attached, and definately not with air attached.

The woosh you hear could be the level 10 kicking in if the ball is rolling forward in the breach and the next ball in the stack is sticking farther into the breach. If you are getting the odd roll out, then the smaller paint might be rolling forward, especially if you are using a force fed hopper. Force fed hoppers can cause the balls to push past the detents if the detents barely contact the sides of the balls.

[Maveric08]

The detents are angel threaded screw in style. Are they adjustable will a small bore barrel help ? What about the occasional double ball and then the velocity drop off towards the last hundred rounds

[Maveric08]

Also how do I go about shimming the side to side play in the trigger ?

[athomas]

Velocity drop off after just a few hundred rounds doesn't make sense unless something changed.

The detents aren't adjustable. A small bore barrel might help a bit, but won't solve the problem. The breach area and detents are the issue when dealing with small paint sizes. You could try killa detents. I believe there is some adjustability in those.

The trigger can be shimmed by removing the trigger pin and adding a shim or two between the side of the trigger and the frame. Select a shim that fits the size of the pin. When you install the pin, it will hold the shim in place beside the trigger. The removal of the gap will prevent the trigger from moving side to side and make the trigger pull much more crisp.