** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

[athomas]

I put in a larger o-ring carrier (the second smallest) with the medium (red) spring and 2 shims and it seemed to fire. The only problem was if I tried to fire rapidly, it wouldn't fire everytime it would just make the sound of air coming out untill I would let go of the trigger. Any help is greatly appreciated!!

You are still getting a bit of bolt stick, plus the vent hole is too close to the carrier oring. Take a shim or two out of the powertube. Use the next larger carrier.

[scrubbs03]

You are still getting a bit of bolt stick, plus the vent hole is too close to the carrier oring. Take a shim or two out of the powertube. Use the next larger carrier.

I tried the next o-ring carrier up but it was too large. I took out a shim and it seemed to shoot pretty good except occasionally it would sound like air down the barrel. I shot paint with it and sometimes it would shoot 2-balls and several times it just dropped the ball out th eend of the barrel. Thanks for all the helpful advice so far......I definately appreciate it. Any more help would be great.

[mas4kcc]

Gun fires while gassisng

I just bought a new tac one and when I gas it up it fires 1 shot most of the time. It had the lvl 10 installed from the factory. I am using a HPA 68-4500 tank. I can hold the trigger down when gassing up and it fires an automatic string. Is this a break in thing for the on/off pin.

[Cow hunter]

I tried the next o-ring carrier up but it was too large. I took out a shim and it seemed to shoot pretty good except occasionally it would sound like air down the barrel. I shot paint with it and sometimes it would shoot 2-balls and several times it just dropped the ball out th eend of the barrel. Thanks for all the helpful advice so far......I definately appreciate it. Any more help would be great.

check your detent, it may be loose, or are you using a force fed hopper?

[athomas]

I tried the next o-ring carrier up but it was too large. I took out a shim and it seemed to shoot pretty good except occasionally it would sound like air down the barrel. I shot paint with it and sometimes it would shoot 2-balls and several times it just dropped the ball out th eend of the barrel. Thanks for all the helpful advice so far......I definately appreciate it. Any more help would be great.

Try using the next shorter bolt spring. Make sure the velocity setting is high enough.

[athomas]

I just bought a new tac one and when I gas it up it fires 1 shot most of the time. It had the lvl 10 installed from the factory. I am using a HPA 68-4500 tank. I can hold the trigger down when gassing up and it fires an automatic string. Is this a break in thing for the on/off pin.

It shouldn't do that. Does it have a ULT? Sounds like an on-off top oring problem. If you have a ULT, remove a shim or two. If you have a retro on-off, clean or change your small top oring. Make sure all the orings are in place.

[mas4kcc]

I appreciate everyones inputs and they are all valid to me. My detent is tight and I use a Empire Reloader B with rip drive. I don't have a ult trigger and no leaks. I have tried it today and it only fired once or twice on gassing up.

I have a reds on/off and it usually bleads the air off for me when I release the pressure. I may have one shot left in the marker, if I don't pull the trigger on that last shot it will not fire on gass up. If I pull the trigger for the last shot the trigger goes limp and it isn't much of a shot. When I gass up again it snaps the trigger and fires the shot.

My Tac One came with a print out on the speed tested and variances. It came ready from the factory ( set at 286). It shoots very accurately and consistant.

[athomas]

I appreciate everyones inputs and they are all valid to me. My detent is tight and I use a Empire Reloader B with rip drive. I don't have a ult trigger and no leaks. I have tried it today and it only fired once or twice on gassing up.

I have a reds on/off and it usually bleads the air off for me when I release the pressure. I may have one shot left in the marker, if I don't pull the trigger on that last shot it will not fire on gass up. If I pull the trigger for the last shot the trigger goes limp and it isn't much of a shot. When I gass up again it snaps the trigger and fires the shot.

My Tac One came with a print out on the speed tested and variances. It came ready from the factory ( set at 286). It shoots very accurately and consistant.

Take the valve apart and clean and lubricate the regulator pin assembly. It may be sticking.

[mas4kcc]

Thanx, I will do that. I appreciate everyones help.

[huggabugga]

is the x-valve really worth it?

I have a minimag that I love to shoot but it chops most paint like crazy no matter what I do. I also have 2 autocockers that i am growing quite fond of .My question is if I get the level 10 and xvalve along with ULE TRIGGER kit, will this eliminate the chopping and will it outperform the autocockers?

Guys,

Post your LVL10 issues here we will try to help.

AGD

[athomas]

I have a minimag that I love to shoot but it chops most paint like crazy no matter what I do. I also have 2 autocockers that i am growing quite fond of .My question is if I get the level 10 and xvalve along with ULE TRIGGER kit, will this eliminate the chopping and will it outperform the autocockers?

This question should have been asked in a post of its own other than the level 10 issue thread.

The level 10 virtually eliminates chopping on mags when setup properly. The ULT reduces the trigger pull force down to that of an electronic marker. Combine that with an Xvalve and you have a very nice fast mechanical marker. Will it outperform an autococker? That is a question which is very subjective. It depends on what you like. Only you will really know which is better for you.

[bad64chevelle]

Okay guys I apologize because I am new to the Automag before I go any further but I am no noob. I just switched over from using a Tippy for the past 7 years. I have an RT automag with a Level 10 installed. I got the gun used a few months ago and it always shot fine. I took it down to the local shop and he tuned it up for me and it was a night and day difference. Shoots amazingly quick and I love it but it began to leak. It started to leak out the back and after some more adjustments and some new Orings that stopped. I took it home and it shot fine for a little while then started to leak down the barrel. He tried a different carrier and the leak settled down quite a bit however it is still noticeable. When shooting fast and the leak continues It will not allow me to shoot for a few seconds and then the trigger pops back out and I can shoot. I just ordered a shim kit from AGD and I hope it came in today. Am I on the correct Pathway here? It is a slight leak down the barrel and is is much better than before but is still there. Thanks for the help in advance!

Jon

[huggabugga]

[QUOTE=athomas]This question should have been asked in a post of its own other than the level 10 issue thread.


sorry athomas I didnt mean be out of line just wasnt sure where to post my ?.

This question should have been asked in a post of its own other than the level 10 issue thread.


The level 10 virtually eliminates chopping on mags when setup properly. The ULT reduces the trigger pull force down to that of an electronic marker. Combine that with an Xvalve and you have a very nice fast mechanical marker. Will it outperform an autococker? That is a question which is very subjective. It depends on what you like. Only you will really know which is better for you.

[athomas]

Okay guys I apologize because I am new to the Automag before I go any further but I am no noob. I just switched over from using a Tippy for the past 7 years. I have an RT automag with a Level 10 installed. I got the gun used a few months ago and it always shot fine. I took it down to the local shop and he tuned it up for me and it was a night and day difference. Shoots amazingly quick and I love it but it began to leak. It started to leak out the back and after some more adjustments and some new Orings that stopped. I took it home and it shot fine for a little while then started to leak down the barrel. He tried a different carrier and the leak settled down quite a bit however it is still noticeable. When shooting fast and the leak continues It will not allow me to shoot for a few seconds and then the trigger pops back out and I can shoot. I just ordered a shim kit from AGD and I hope it came in today. Am I on the correct Pathway here? It is a slight leak down the barrel and is is much better than before but is still there. Thanks for the help in advance!

Jon

The trigger sticking is actually bolt stick and is due to the carrier being too tight. It sounds like the original carrier was the correct one. There may have been too many shims in the powertube which caused the leak down the barrel. Remove a shim or two from the powertube.

[bad64chevelle]

The trigger sticking is actually bolt stick and is due to the carrier being too tight. It sounds like the original carrier was the correct one. There may have been too many shims in the powertube which caused the leak down the barrel. Remove a shim or two from the powertube.

okay I see what you are saying but I dont have any more carriers I bought the gun and it only came the way it was and had no extra parts. I look on the AGD site and I can buy them one at a time, but I wish I could purchase a whole kit. I am not sure what size I have in there now, how do I check that and whatever it is how do I know whether to go bigger or smaller? Thanks

Jon