** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

[slade]

when the bolt sticks forward... does it feal stuck? if so make sure you have the small black oring on the ball detent as your detent may be to hard. if thats not the issue i would say try other carriers try a larger carrier is my guess.

its not a problem with the ball dent and i tried the different carriers... the carrier one size up leaked, so that wasnt it... oh well, ill just try playing around with it for a while more.

[bmangel]

[paullus99]

Velocity Spike & misfires/burps

Good day all,

I upgraded to the X-Valve/Level 10 on my Mag about a month ago & I'm noticing a couple of issues I'm hoping you can help with -

Specs -

X-Valve/Level 10 - powerfeed body, 68/4500 tank in a drop forward

Using the Red Spring, & two shims.....

1) After gassing up the marker, when I take it to chrono - the first shot is always over 300 (305 - 310) then it settles down back into the 270 - 280 range....this seems to happen every time I've not shot for a while (in between games, say 15 - 20 mins at a time).

2) During the game, everyone once in a while (maybe every 150 shots or so) I get a misfire, no shot, just a gas sound (like a burp).

Any ideas? I was thinking about sending the gun out to be tuned, but I'm trying to avoid it. Otherwise the gun has been extremely consistent & really a blast to use. Having for over 10 years now, I'm happy to upgrade, but want to get the most out of the marker.

Thanks in advance!

[slade]

1) that always happens to me, im not sure if you can fix it. 2) that happened to me for a while, and then i got a lot of leaking down the barrel. it was fixed when i changed the carrier. i think the problem is that the o-ring is just breaking in and is wearing down, so the gas leaks out slowly, and if you wait a while in between shots, there isnt enough gas to fire the paintball. try using a carrier one size down and see if that fixes the problem.

[jetgirl]

If it's not leaking, then you might only have to turn the velocity down. Hard to say, though.

[matwizard08]

need help fast.

i am haveing a very hard time with my level 10.i got it instaled but i had to switch the the shimes and the carrier around.so it went washer (2) shime,carrier then tip.Is that normal.Then when it is hooked up when i hook a full tank of co2 in my power tube shoots a ton of c02 out the back.I am useing a 68 classic.I have changed all the carriers in it but one and i will try that tommorow when i get my co2 hooked up.I seriously need help on the co2 shooting out the back i wasted a full 24 oz just trying to fix this problem.I am playing on friday i need to get this problem fixed fast.PLEASE HELP.

P.S Is there ne where i can send my gun in to get this fixed i will pay any one to fix it for me and can i send it into AGD will they fix it if aneyone cant help me or the problem is not fixed

[jetgirl]

matwizard08,
The carrier needs to fit snugly - not tight or loose. Also, too many shims will cause air leaks. Furthermore, the springs also make a velocity difference. Too much can cause venting. Check out the CD that came with the LVL10 kit; it should help. Your local paintball shop might be able to work it; otherwise, AGD will always be happy to troubleshoot it.

[matwizard08]

still haveing problems.

i am still haveing problems with my level x.whats the addresss for agd i am gonna send it in to them c if they can fix it .i cant use my cd cuz it is not woring in my computer or ps2.please reply fast with i need some help.

[paullus99]

Velocity Spike & misfires/burps

Good day all,

I swtiched out the middle spring for the Red Spring on the bolt & it seems to have eliminated the burping (put 500 rounds through it & not one misfire).

I think the velocity spike might still be an issue - should I go up or down on the carrier (and what's the best way to identify the different sizes) to see if this affects it at all.

Thanks.

[Plazmic]

i am still haveing problems with my level x.whats the addresss for agd i am gonna send it in to them c if they can fix it .i cant use my cd cuz it is not woring in my computer or ps2.please reply fast with i need some help.

Here is a link to AGD's contact page:

AGD Contact Information

You might give them a call first so, with some luck, you won't have to send your gun in.

Also, here is a link to the Level 10 set up info:

Level 10 Setup Page

This is pretty much what is on the CD.

[Plazmic]

You probably just need to tune the Level 10. Take some time with your marker and the CD that came with the X-valve, follow the steps carefully, and then see if things are working properly. If that doesn't work, try contacting AGD at the numbers linked in my post above.

Good luck and welcome to AO!

[rmhawk]

Okay, maybe someone can help me. I have dinked with my level x for a year. I finally got sick of it not working properly. I sent it to BlackVCG and paid him to tune it. I got it back, it worked for a day, then leaked. I had to go down two carriers and now I am back to where I started. My level x breaks balls. Any suggestions. Maybe get rid of my Emag and buy another brand since the level x they claim won't break balls does in fact break balls.

[Plazmic]

Okay, maybe someone can help me. I have dinked with my level x for a year. I finally got sick of it not working properly. I sent it to BlackVCG and paid him to tune it. I got it back, it worked for a day, then leaked. I had to go down two carriers and now I am back to where I started. My level x breaks balls. Any suggestions. Maybe get rid of my Emag and buy another brand since the level x they claim won't break balls does in fact break balls.

I'm sorry you're having such a rough time of it. If you feel inclined, maybe you could list out all of your specs again and, though this is a long shot, maybe I'll notice something that might help you. Also, what kind of oil are you using in your gun? I'm beginning to think that the little troubles I have had here and there have been related to oil breakdown. When you go the gun back from BlackVCG, did it start acting up after a full day of play, and then you pulled it apart for cleaning? That would be the normal thing to do, but sometimes the tightness of the field strip screw can cause the LX to leak, so that crossed my mind. Let's see if any of this rings a bell. If not, and the thing is still not working for you, some other brand just might be what you want to do.

Mags are great, but if it's making you unhappy then you should find a brand that does. Maybe a Matrix or Omen or something.

If you do decide to get rid of your e-mag then it will be easy to find a buy here. I'll probably make an offer myself, if I have the money at the time. Hopefully it won't come to that for you, though.

[rmhawk]

Emag w/emag valve, .5 carrier, no shims, dynaflow tank set at 900psi, KC Synthetic oil. That's my setup. Black told me to send him the entire gun this time and he'll fix it.

[matwizard08]

bolts sticking

ok i just went and had my lx installed at my local shop and everything was working great not breaking ne thing.but later in the game my bolt started to stick and a ton of co2 would leak out of my barrel.i was playing with cheap paint and some of the balls brke in the bag before and i thought it was the paint jaming it up so i cleaned out the barrel and i shot it with out the barrel on and everything was great but once i put the barrel on everything went to hell wouldnt shoot a ball and my triiger was sticking it wasnt pretty. can anyone help me with the bolt sticking and my trigger not working right