** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

[NeoApollo]

Missing Back Up washer!

I just got the level 10 kit, and it doesn't have a backup washer on it. Looking at the list of what it has, I don't see any washers either. Where do I get the flippin delrin back up washer?!

[senghing27]

I have a question, when i gas up my mag, it does this full auto shot sequence untill i cut off the gas. Any clues??

[athomas]

I just got the level 10 kit, and it doesn't have a backup washer on it. Looking at the list of what it has, I don't see any washers either. Where do I get the flippin delrin back up washer?!

Call AGD if the kit came without a backup washer.

[athomas]

I have a question, when i gas up my mag, it does this full auto shot sequence untill i cut off the gas. Any clues??

What is the configuration of your mag and how old is it.?

Check to see if there is an oring missing in your on-off top.

[Toll]

What is the configuration of your mag and how old is it.?

Check to see if there is an oring missing in your on-off top.

The mag has a level 10 bolt running on a 68 valve in a ULE body

[senghing27]

The mag has a level 10 bolt running on a 68 valve in a ULE body

Yeah, i got it from tolls.. but now, when i gas it up, it has resistance on the trigger, but now, doesn't shoot, and when i do get it to shoot, its more of a leak not a full shot..

[senghing27]

Yeah, i got it from tolls.. but now, when i gas it up, it has resistance on the trigger, but now, doesn't shoot, and when i do get it to shoot, its more of a leak not a full shot..

nevermid guys we got it taken care of, apparently theres no bottom brass thinininmajig in the on/off assmbly, and theres no orings i there, i went and ordered a parts kit...

[dyepb]

bolt stick

i got my level 10 installed on my emag.. and it worked wonders over the weekend..no breaks for the first time.... now when i gas it up, i get bolt stick after 1 shot,

How do i fix this??.. and do i have to keep constatly fine tuning the level 10?

thanks

[athomas]

You need to go up one carrier size. That should allow the bolt to fully reset after each shot. Once the carrier oring is broken in you shouldn't need any further tuning.

[JediJenax13]

Help for Tac-One

My buddie shot my Tac-One, fell in love and bought one a few weeks ago. Outta the box with the air fittings on it it shot great. This last weekend at practice however, it started to double feed from time to time and would start losing velocity and pressure on the RT. Sometimes the RT would stick into the actual grip itself. Should he just send it back or can I easly fix the problem for him. I need to know soon if possible, we have a scenario this weekend. He has an A-5 that has everything you could possibly imagine on it but the Tac-One still outshoots it hands down.
JEDI OUT!!!!

[athomas]

My buddie shot my Tac-One, fell in love and bought one a few weeks ago. Outta the box with the air fittings on it it shot great. This last weekend at practice however, it started to double feed from time to time and would start losing velocity and pressure on the RT. Sometimes the RT would stick into the actual grip itself. Should he just send it back or can I easly fix the problem for him. I need to know soon if possible, we have a scenario this weekend. He has an A-5 that has everything you could possibly imagine on it but the Tac-One still outshoots it hands down.
JEDI OUT!!!!

Most problems like this are due to bolt stick. Try going to the next larger carrier and see if that helps.

[11 Bravo]

My velocity jumps around 10 or 15 fps when I use the middle spring. I cant use the longest spring (wont fire). When I use the stock spring the velicity stays within 1. 280,279, and so on. Is it normal for the velocity to jump around with the red spring?

[athomas]

Using the middle spring, you are probably setting the velocity too close to the lower end of the operating range. This would cause the inconsistency you are seeing. Once the carrier oring is properly broken in, these fluctuations will go away. Until then, you may want to use the short bolt spring. The other option is to cut the long spring down to act as a shorter version of the middle spring. The proper spring allows the ideal velocity setting to make the gun shoot 20fps above the lowest velocity at which the gun stops shooting.

[speedy2k4]

hey guys, just picked up a nice classic with intelliframe and lvl 10 yesterday. few things. first, any chance of AGD sending me 2 foamie bumpers for the bolt? mine is kinda...well, use your imagination. and a new wire detent would be appreciated as well

second i am completely new to mags. i got the valve all cleaned out, replaced a few old looking o-rings, got it greased, etc. and i am currently setting up the level 10. what i was wondering is what are the pros and cons of the heavy spring as opposed to the medium spring, and what would be the ideal carrier to use? from what i've gathered the heavier the spring the better, assuming you can still reach the desired velocity. and for the carriers, would you want the largest one you can use without a leak, or would you want the smallest you could use without bolt stick?

right now i don't have air, but i am gonna try for the heavy spring and single bar carrier. the double bar carrier seemed a bit loose to hold the pressure very well.

and i know most of this has probably been answered many times before, but i occasionally find mixed ideas and i don't have the time to sort through 44 pages.

thanks guys

[11 Bravo]

You want the largest carrier that does not leak. As for the springs I dont know. The heavier the spring the more air you use to move the bolt. When I put my finger in the breach and fire I cant tell the difference between the medium spring and the short spring. I get better consistancy from the short spring, but that was explained by athomas in the post above yours.