BlackVCG's ULT Thread

[StygShore]

old thread

best bet, take it all apart and start over followign the directions from Black VCG. You should not need to put all your shims in there, unless you are trying to force runaway.

If you still haver an o-ring left in the bag, chances are the ULT is NOT assembled correctly, so you should start there, then follow the instructions in this thread to set it up.

I have used 3 ULT's now, and they all used standard setup +/- 1 shim pretty much.


Styg


ps. This is an OOOOOOLLLLLLDDDD stickied thread, best bet would be to make a new post because most of the people in the know dont check these old stickied threads anymore.

[bersly]

Shims & ULT

Does anyone have an exploded view like the XValve so I can see how the shims are installed. I am new to the ADG family

[cyberave68]

[MANN]

IIRC the ult shims are half the thickness of a level X shim. The level X are .01, and the ult are .005

That is odd tho, because usually mine is fine with 2-3 ult, or 1-2 level X

Cyber what kind of air tank are you using? can you adjust the pressure? Do you know what your velocity is with jsut the rt on/off in your gun? (ie maybe your velocity is turned up too high)

[cyberave68]

[Nick E]

Has anyone had a problem with the ULT where the pin becomes stuck or bent inside the housing? I've treid it on two different guns, the x valve(which is now out of commission, because it decided to leak when I wanted to try co2 on it, resulting in everything freezing throughly) and the classic valve. In the x valve, It seemed like there was no back pressure on the trigger, I had to actually move the sear to lock the bolt. There was no resistance from the on/off...and if the bolt came foward, it leaked like crazy..(which I thought it shouldn't do, because the dump chamber is supposed to be sealed, right) Then I tried it in the minimag, and still got nothing. NO matter how I played with the velocity, level ten, it just wouldn't work. And I can't really test to see if it's the x valve or if it's the ult..Any suggestions, before I drop $25 for a o ring kit or $20 for a stock on/off..?
Thanks..

[Drego]

Has anyone had a problem with the ULT where the pin becomes stuck or bent inside the housing? I've treid it on two different guns, the x valve(which is now out of commission, because it decided to leak when I wanted to try co2 on it, resulting in everything freezing throughly) and the classic valve. In the x valve, It seemed like there was no back pressure on the trigger, I had to actually move the sear to lock the bolt. There was no resistance from the on/off...and if the bolt came foward, it leaked like crazy..(which I thought it shouldn't do, because the dump chamber is supposed to be sealed, right) Then I tried it in the minimag, and still got nothing. NO matter how I played with the velocity, level ten, it just wouldn't work. And I can't really test to see if it's the x valve or if it's the ult..Any suggestions, before I drop $25 for a o ring kit or $20 for a stock on/off..?
Thanks..

Nick,

I hate to be the one to point out the obvious, but AGD has vehemently stated NEVER to use C02 with the xvalve. You'll find on page 2 of the manual the warning about using C02.

[Virndogg]

So today i installed the ULT upgrade and i obviously started with the 2 shims. it worked ok but i wanted to see if i added or subtracted any shims if it would work better. first i took one shim out and whenever i fired the bolt would take some time to recharge. so i put 2 more back in so now im at 3 shims...i fired and i noticed i was getting some bounce but whenever i fired fast the bolt wouldnt recharge for a sec. after a string of shots. So i kept adding and adding more shims until i was at 6 since it seemed to be helping somewhat. but all it did was give the trigger more bounce, but the ROF is still real low since the bolt doesnt seem to recharge fast enough. So i have no idea what to do now and have no idea if i did something wrong. But here's my setup:

RT ULE, Intelliframe w/ viperblade trigger, ULT mod, X-valve, LVL 10

oh and all this was done dry-firing except for the time i used 2 shims.

[Ken Majors]

So today i installed the ULT upgrade and i obviously started with the 2 shims. it worked ok but i wanted to see if i added or subtracted any shims if it would work better. first i took one shim out and whenever i fired the bolt would take some time to recharge. so i put 2 more back in so now im at 3 shims...i fired and i noticed i was getting some bounce but whenever i fired fast the bolt wouldnt recharge for a sec. after a string of shots. So i kept adding and adding more shims until i was at 6 since it seemed to be helping somewhat. but all it did was give the trigger more bounce, but the ROF is still real low since the bolt doesnt seem to recharge fast enough. So i have no idea what to do now and have no idea if i did something wrong. But here's my setup:

RT ULE, Intelliframe w/ viperblade trigger, ULT mod, X-valve, LVL 10

oh and all this was done dry-firing except for the time i used 2 shims.

Try increasing your input pressure if you can. If you can't make sure your tank is full.
Has to be a high output tank....at least 800psi...more if possible

[EPIC_Sword]

out of control shooting

ok i gassed the gun up today and pulled the trigger and it goes crazy shooting full auto i had 3 shims in it and took one out and it is still going full auto and i do it again and again full auto so i was wondering does this have anything to do with the ult or the lvl 10 and if you could please tell me how to fix this that would be great.

[Virndogg]

Try increasing your input pressure if you can. If you can't make sure your tank is full.
Has to be a high output tank....at least 800psi...more if possible

When i was shooting i was using a pure energy 72/3000 fixed at 800 psi and the tank was just filled before i started

[Raligh]

did i get had?

i just got a new xvalve and a ule trigger straight from agd when i put everything together my gun wouldn't shoot so did the standard adjustments and got it to fire about 10-20 times before it will just quit. i put the standard on off back in and the gun works fine its gotta be the ule. so i did a litte reading and it says if the gun won't fire add a shim. and if the gun runs away take a shim out. so my gun wasn't fireing i added the only extra shim they gave me. only to discover i had put a seventh sim on. meening all six shims came on the ule strait from agd? is that correct? is that how they come? anyway i used all my air so i gotta wait till tomarrow before i try it again. any advice from you guys would be super appreciated. i realy wana get my gun rolein. hopefuly friday will be the first time i go play in about 8 years. i know the mag is willin but the ule trig might not make the trip

[peeeto]

i just got a new xvalve and a ule trigger straight from agd when i put everything together my gun wouldn't shoot so did the standard adjustments and got it to fire about 10-20 times before it will just quit. i put the standard on off back in and the gun works fine its gotta be the ule. so i did a litte reading and it says if the gun won't fire add a shim. and if the gun runs away take a shim out. so my gun wasn't fireing i added the only extra shim they gave me. only to discover i had put a seventh sim on. meening all six shims came on the ule strait from agd? is that correct? is that how they come? anyway i used all my air so i gotta wait till tomarrow before i try it again. any advice from you guys would be super appreciated. i realy wana get my gun rolein. hopefuly friday will be the first time i go play in about 8 years. i know the mag is willin but the ule trig might not make the trip

i think you need to take some shims out:
i was recently playing around with my ULE, adding shims one at a time... 6 shims gives me a good response on the trigger without going full auto, but when i added the 7th shim, my Tac did the same exact thing you are describing - it wouldn't fire.

took the 7th shim out & marker fires great.

[RobAGD]

Ok, this is an odd one from me but I am hunting for the ULT PDF for a customer.

If there isnt one, could someone fax the manual from the kit it to my shop 703-273-1807

-Robert

[The_Don_83]