BlackVCG's ULT Thread

[Plazmic]

This doesn't sound right at all. It's behaving like a classic valve, not a retro valve.

Have you cleaned and oiled your valve and level 10 lately? It sounds to me like you might have some dirt issues.

Another thought...try tightening the field strip screw a little more. If that doesn't help, then try it only hand tight. I've heard of some retros having issues if the valve is not lined up just right.

[jon-micheal]

will it work on a 68 classic vavle

[spadge67]

sorry to bug you all again, but after reading around, i'm confused, i have the ULT installed, but i'm still getting trigger bounce, they wouldnt let me play today after i drove an hour to the field, because i had trigger bounce. had to use my stingray. was kind apissed

[Plazmic]

sorry to bug you all again, but after reading around, i'm confused, i have the ULT installed, but i'm still getting trigger bounce, they wouldnt let me play today after i drove an hour to the field, because i had trigger bounce. had to use my stingray. was kind apissed

Did they ban all automags or just yours? How about Autocockers? Did they ban those, too? How about Tippmans?

Mags have trigger bounce. It's tournament legal. The ULT has less bounce, but the air still has to push the trigger back. It's not spring loaded or electronic. It just sounds like the people at that field have problems.

However, if you want to reduce the bounce some, try adding a shim to your ULT.

[spadge67]

no, my friend played all day with his a-5 r/t with no problem. there were several cockers there to. i'll try adding a shim, thanks.

[Plazmic]

no, my friend played all day with his a-5 r/t with no problem. there were several cockers there to. i'll try adding a shim, thanks.

I'm surprised that they would not let you use your Mag with the ULT when they are allowing an A-5 with an R/t on it. Is it really THAT bouncy? Is it more so than before you put the ULT on it? The ULT normally drops the reactivity quite a bit.

I can only think that the people at this field have some sort of pre-disposition against Automags and simply didn't want you to use it no matter if it was legal or not.

If you don't mind my asking, where was this field and what's it called?

[Archangel-6]

Thanks to BradAGD, and Potatoboy....I ended up shaving my pin a bit, and running 5ULT, and 1LX shim, and the ULT rips in my Retro! I'm going to shave a but more so I can drop the shim count...Definately a good product, just a B%&#h to tune...

Rob

[Lefty21]

Sticking problem

Hey

I should be getting my ult tommorrow but b4 I do just have a few questions, hopefully somebody can help. 1. I was working on 1 shim in my LX and it was sticking. I put two more but didn't get a chance to fine tune cuz I ran out of air. Do you think three is too many? How many should I have in there?

2. Also if my problem is the carrier and not the shims, how do I remove the old carrier from the mainbody to change it? I got the Xvalve, which came standard with the LX so I didn't put the carrier in myself. It seems stuck, tried to pull it out w/a allen key but I don't want to damage anything. :o

[Janitor]

I finally got my ULT to start the install on my valve which was working without problems before I started to install it. I put it in with the 2 shims in it and it started to work ok. Little spongey but working. I tried to add another shim to make it a little softer but then it wouldn't gas up with out leaking out the barrel and going into runaway. So I removed the shim that I added and reinstalled but same results, so I ended up removing all of the shims and trying that. That also leaked and went into runaway. So I installed the old RT valve and it did the same thing. What I found out regarding this was that the field strip screw was being over tightend and causing the on/off to never be able to hold the sear which in turn wouldn't hold the bolt back. So I tried a couple of things and finally figured the field strip screw was the problem. I now just tighten the screw so it is just snug and it seemed to work pretty well.
I obviously don't have it fine tuned yet because it doesn't shoot very well just yet. I installed my old Classic valve which I had never used with my HPA and man that thing rocked way faster then I could fire the Emag valve either with the ULT or without. So that got me thinking what would this thing do with the ULT? Haven't tried that as of yet but I will try it soon.
I must not have something right. How long does it take to break in the ULT, about a 1000 shots or so? Should it be working really well from the start?

I'm running a Classic frame with the Emag valve without lvlX and the ULT with a preset tank.

[Empyreal Rogue]

I got my ULT Kit on Friday then took off on a trip to MD. I tried tuning it but all failed attempts. I just got back home so I have access to a computer.

Here's my problem:

With 2 Shims the marker won't fire, with 1 it won't fire. With 3 it goes Full Auto and I don't want to see what happens when I put all 4 in. Is it the carrier that's problematic? I probably should have read through this but I'm tired right now and didn't feel like it nor have time. :\

[BlackVCG]

Is your sear in good shape?

Do you have the rail bushing in the field strip screw hole?

Are you using ULT shims or LX shims? ULT shims are .005" thick and LX shims are .010" thick.

[Empyreal Rogue]

Is your sear in good shape? Relatively. It's been through three different users over a 2-3 year span.

Do you have the rail bushing in the field strip screw hole? Yes.

Are you using ULT shims or LX shims? ULT shims are .005" thick and LX shims are .010" thick. ULT Shims.

I -think- it's working now though. I guess it just needed to be broken in. It's brand new.

[Bobsbarricades]

It is true. I do have some problem with recharge rate. you probably won't get anymore firepower with this upgrade if you run a classic valve, but once you get the pull down you will hardly ever short stroke. The pull is extremely light though. I love it, but I cant wait to try it in an x-valve.

what is he talking about when he says pull down??

[Plazmic]

what is he talking about when he says pull down??

He means once you get comfortable with the feel of the trigger pull and it comes naturally to you without having to think about it.

[AGDlover]

ok can someone post a pic of a assembled ULT since i'm getting one soon and i want to see what it looks like so i can compare it when i drop mine in