BlackVCG's ULT Thread

[Arctic]

I also just got my ULT and I can't get it to work. I have tried 2, 3, and 4 shims (.005) and can't seem to get it right. I have 3 in right now and the bolt sticks. 2 or 4 shims is even worse. I have oiled up the ULT and the value and still nothing.

If I put my basic on/off back in my RT fires fine. I'm not sure what the problem is. Plz help!

I have a RT Pro x-value and ULT.

Using a 4500 PSI tank

[AGDlover]

I recently bought the ULT and i got everything ready to go with one shim in, gassed it up, and the trigger didnt reset(didnt let me shoot it) so i tried it with 2 shims, same thing. Tried 3, got one shot of and it didnt reset. Tried 4 shims and nothing happend. So i finally tried 5 shims...still nothing. I am using a classic valve but i thought the only problems with it would be shootdown, not having it not work at all. Please help. Any help would be greatly appriciated.

lets just put it this way buy a lot at least 10 lvl10 shims and drop all the lvl10 shims and see what happens curently i'm running all my lvl10 shims and all my ULT shims so around 13 shims and i actualty ordered 6more

[Cool fool!]

Arctic...

Arctic,


Try different carrier and LX shim combos. Same prob wit mine and now mine werks fine.

-Paul

[AGDlover]

ok guys i got some wicked bounce now a day with the ULT in the classic whats up?

[ldanphanl]

is there like a certain psi that the ult can handle? bewcause it seams that the sear is getting stuck half way when the tank out put is at 800 psi

[Castor Troy]

Okay I am getting mad bolt stick (thats where the bolt will not recock, right?)....currently have a drilled retro, tried 3 lvl10 shims, worked alright, if it were not for the bolt stick...I lubed it too...argh...

I have a rt pro..by the way...

[Sac]

ok i have all 5 ULT shims in and it still short strokes really bad and doesnt want to reset, should i try sticking a level 10 shim in too

[p8baller4life]

Hi. I'm new to the forum and I loved it. I read this thread after I bought the ult hoping to buy a tac one later (i got it for a very good price). then I decide to try it in my automag valve. Well after reading almost all the posts, having problem with shot down and analizing the valve I came to the conclusion that the best think to do was to shorten the valve pin. So I did. I removed exactly .03" from the top side (thinner), rechamfer the pin edge. After that I tried different shim combinations and end up using 2 ult shims and now it is working nicely. No shot down, not recharge problems, no short stroking.

[Mechanic79]

KC Trouble Free oil

The higher quality oil you use, the less frequently you'll have to oil your gun. Autolube is an OK oil, but it in my opinion it doesn't cut it in a higher performance Mag setup that has LX and ULT. With both of those setups, the fit of the o-rings and how smooth things are moving is very critical to keeping the gun running well and reliable.

The problem with autolube is that it drys out the o-rings and the oil itself drys out and doesn't keep things lubed.

Ever since I've been using KC Trouble Free oil, my o-rings stay as clean looking as they were when they were brand new and I never have gun issues that are caused by an inadequate amount of oil.

If you use autolube, do you ever wonder why your o-rings look all brown and dried out and brand new o-rings in parts kit are nice and clear?

BlackVCG,

I've also been using KC Trouble Free lube per your recommendations.

Since I've been using it this summer I've readjusted my level X carrier from the "single line" one to the carrier with "no lines". Does this KC troublefree oil really lube so well that It's caused me to adjust my level X in all of my guns??? It seems so...

Would this oil also add a little to the efficiency of the gun?

Let me know your thoughts on this.

Thanks Mechanic79

[voodooaddict]

Just dropped the ULT into a Classic Mag Valve with Hyperframe.
(Tried it out of the box with one shim ... didn't fire ... so put all of them in)

It works great!

I can finnaly use my Hyperframe! The thing never had enough force to properly fire the marker. I got my hyperframe years ago now. And It never worked right.

I haven't had time put any paint through it yet; But the mag reliably cycles again! Thats more then it did before.

Question. How fast can the old Classic Mag cycle on nitro? (800PSI Centerflag Hyperflow ASA) For simplicity reasons (and people saying the Classic doesn't charge fast enought for thr ULT) I've set the Hyperframe to 5BPS. Can I reliably bring her up to the 7-8 range? Yeah i know a 7bps bit comical for a target with all the markers shooting at easily double that rate.

[autockr01]

ULT on a classic

OK this is for everyone with a CLASSIC VALVE who has a ULT!!

You gotta shim the hell out of the ULT.... AGDlover is right. I just took apart my ult and apparently I have 5 ULT shims and 3 LX shims, so a grand total equivalent to 11 ult shims. I found that if I use good finger control, I can shoot flawlessly. Unfortunately, without finger control, maybe 1 out of every 3 short strokes I get, the bolt will not reset at which time I gotta stick my finger into the breech and reset the bolt manually. My conclusion: On a CLASSIC valve, even 11 ULT shims isn't enough. So for the people with classic valve who have like 3 or 4 shims in your ult, complainin that your mag wont act right, all i gotta say is: you got a lot more "shimmin" to do.

[mag88888]

installing

everyone says that its a breeze but i just dont know how to install the ult. please help me. i got the ult installed at ag wehen i got my gun, but i need to tune it.

[robb2269]

ult adjustment

my X-valve came with a level 10 in it assuming it was tuned. ULT came seperate. So I put in would not reset after short stroke. Put more shims in and it worked great. But now when I short stroke it pushes a ball in the barrel casuing two balls to shoot or sometimes break in barel. So I was told to put in longer spring then air leaks down barrel. Where do I go from here? Do I have to tune the L-X or add shims to ULT?

[NewMagMan21]

I didn't want to read all 250 posts to find it so.
What is the recharge rate of a classic?
And in general (w/o ULT) is the X-valve harder to short pull?

[Wassupstranger67]

I bought a ULT on/off for my x-valve, I heard you can rapid fire the ULE trigger??? I put all my ULE shims and all my level 10 shims in the ULE trigger. It has so many shims in it I can barley fit the valve in the body, and I heard somewhere that you could shave the on/off pin a little. Would this work???????