BlackVCG's ULT Thread

[BigEvil]

ULT and classic valve

Blackvcg,

Just got my ULT for my classic valve. I get runnaway with 4 shims, with 5 its doesnt fire, and 6 it doesnt sit down far enough in the vavle to get in the body. 3,2, and 1 shim doesnt fire. Any suguestions?

Thanks

[nipplez]

how about 3 shims?

[BigEvil]

how about 3 shims?

See post above*** 3 shim swont fire. :-(

[voodooaddict]

Is the ULT recommended or not recommended for mags with Hyperframes?

On my classic Mag with Hyperframe ... the ULT was the only way to get it working reliably. I have it set to 6bps. (9v VL2000)

[BigEvil]

Ok, so say the ULT doesnt work with any combinations of shims - Then what?

(classic valve, btw)

[BigEvil]

Answering my own question :-)

Ok, so say the ULT doesnt work with any combinations of shims - Then what?

(classic valve, btw)

FYI for anyone with a classic valve that is trying to install a ULT. I ran into the situation where ithe gun would not fire with 4 shims, but adding more would prevent the on/off from fitting into the gun body.

My solution was to file the bottom of the pin down enough to make it work with 4 shims. Since adding shims = a shortned pin anyway, I figured i might as well just physically shorten it.

If you try it, I would suguest being VERY careful. Also, make sure you grind the BOTTOM of the pin. That would be the end that sticks out of your vavle and contacts the sear.

So far so good. I installed a LVL10 as well. I have to wait for a break in the weather for me to put some paint through it, but it sounds pretty good.

Im going through all of this trouble so I can install a spyder frame on the gun.
(yes, I am a habitual tinkerer)

[Tigwldr]

I have read this post an in the beginning BLACK says the ULT can't be installed in the Classic. But now BIGEVIL you are saying you have one in a Classic did you have to drill out the valve or anything to make it work?

[BigEvil]

I have read this post an in the beginning BLACK says the ULT can't be installed in the Classic. But now BIGEVIL you are saying you have one in a Classic did you have to drill out the valve or anything to make it work?

No, all classic valves have 2 on/off top orings and can accept the ULT. You may experience chuffing or shoot-down with it if you short stroke. I put it in my classic valve because I am putting a sypder e-frame on it.

[Pain For Pleasure]

Hey,
When I fire too quickly, I will shortstroke a bit. Is this something I'm going to just have to practice working on, or did I install it incorrectly. I have trigger stops on, and I gave them some slack and that seemed to help, but when I short stroke, the only way I can remedy the situation is by taking off the tank and putting it back on. As you can imagine, that is quite annoying. I installed the ULT a while ago so I don't remember how many shims it has on it, but if it's not the ULT's fault, could my tank be suffering from shootdown. Its and ACI Bulldog III, which if you go by those test results is not the quickest in recharging. Thank you for any insight you can give me.

[frop]

Hey,
When I fire too quickly, I will shortstroke a bit. Is this something I'm going to just have to practice working on, or did I install it incorrectly. I have trigger stops on, and I gave them some slack and that seemed to help, but when I short stroke, the only way I can remedy the situation is by taking off the tank and putting it back on. As you can imagine, that is quite annoying. I installed the ULT a while ago so I don't remember how many shims it has on it, but if it's not the ULT's fault, could my tank be suffering from shootdown. Its and ACI Bulldog III, which if you go by those test results is not the quickest in recharging. Thank you for any insight you can give me.

Have you watched how you pull the trigger to make sure its not user error? If it truly is the ULT, add a shim at a time till it gets where you like it.

[Stoble]

Why does my gun stop firing with too many shims instead of going into runaway?
specs:
micromag
xvalve
I-frame
750 psi crossfire
ult 6 shims right now

[skyline]

sorry if this already has been answered before a million zillion times, but why is it not recommended for a 68 mag? talking about the ult....

[Rambino]

Howdy -

Just got my second mag ( ), a used RT Pro with X-Valve and ULT, and the vertical Logic frame. I did not get any instructions of any kind, however.

I also have a bag of extra shims, but I can't tell if they are lvlX or ULT shims. Is there an easy way to tell? I would like to be a little more scientific in my approach to adjustment...


Separately - I can't find any online instructions and useful blowups anywhere (for ULT and/or lvlX), and I've been through the AGD website several times. Does somebody have a link? That would be great.

All help appreciated. Thanks.

[VnV]

I need extra shims!!!! i just got a used mag and only have 4 in the ULT, the gun "short strokes?" ...i shoot and then the trigger goes limp like it isnt gased up and doesnt fire for anywhere from 2-10 seconds then pops back, and i can fire again just fine.

I think i need more shims but it didnt come with any more, i didnt check but i think the power tube has to on it..... anywhere i can get shims or anyoen have some extra and can help a brother out?

pm me or hit me at vnvnati0nalist on AIM Thanks

[1337caesar]

Is there any condition in the ult that would cause the gun not to fire at all but to still push on the trigger with a lot of force? Thant is whats happenigng to my gun and I ruled out the lvl 10 so this is the only other thing I can think of that could cause the problem.