finally finished my homemade e-mag conversion...

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  • the electrician
    Registered User
    • Jan 2002
    • 542

    #76
    you can hook up directly to the sear, just think about where the extra arm comes off on the e-mag sear. I use to have a ram connected to the sear, about midway on the part of the sear that catches the bolt. I drilled a hole through the sear there. it ends up being about where the extra sear arm would put you on the e-mag sear. but drilling the sear is not an easy task. you have to have patience and the proper tools to drill hardened steel.

    you could buy an e-mag sear perhaps. this would give you a place to connect.

    I went with the horizontal set-up because it is very compact, and you do not have to attch anything to the sear at all. much easier to deal with. everything breaks down for cleaning or repair much faster.

    with a pull solenoid, you are limited to pulling the front of the sear and using up alot of space in your gip frame.

    the return spring also absorbs some of the force generated by your solenoid. what ever it's pressure is, or compression in an amount of force, take that right off the top of the force available to mave the sear.


    the use of a stabilizer- yes it could be done. one would have to use a "T" fitting on the stabilizer input. so that the 800 psi air supply could also be available for the gun. this leaves you a large volume of low pressure air for the function of the sear actuator (which I don't really need), but eliminates the volume of air to the main valve of the gun. I like the way my set up has no bottom line. it is an ASA directly into a gas-thru grip. the gas thru grip is basically a large volume of air, regulated and ready to go for the main valve.

    you're right in thinking it would be a bit sneakier, sleeker look. my friend was setting his pneumatic-sear mag like that. but I like my set up the way it is. I already had all the parts lying around, so it was the cheapest way to go. :)

    actually, the gun looks completely different now. it has a black ULE body, a milled rail, and a new drop and ASA. all the rest of the parts have been changed to black to match. when it's all said and done, the grip frame and rail will be anodized to match the ULE body. I'll have some pics up eventually. it looks alot better.
    ~E~

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    • adlar
      AGD Trained Monkey
      • Dec 2000
      • 133

      #77
      Well, I'm thinking about using the Emag sear instead of cutting up my good sear. It's a small piece to work on, and possibly hard to clamp down good on the press I've got, which is a large beast. The 'noid I picked up is rated to account for the return spring, and since I'm truly experimenting, trial and error will determine to some extent whether it is useful or not. I actually called and had the specific solenoid settings verified before I ordered it. I had a bad experience trying to time my old autococker, so that scared me away from the lpr, 3-way/solenoid, ram type set up.

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      • the electrician
        Registered User
        • Jan 2002
        • 542

        #78
        yeah the e-mag sear would be easier if you're going to attach a ram/ solenoid directly to it. they are expensive though.

        you definitely have to get a sear clamped down good to drill it. it takes a little while to get through too.

        there is no timing to deal with the reg, 3-way, and ram set-up. since it's electronic, the ciruit board does the job. and after you set it up, you just change one register on the morlock, and that controls your ROF. very easy. no giant, heavy battery and it has plenty of power to move the sear.

        but hey, you take your time and do it right, you could make a really cool solenoid acuated sear design.
        ~E~

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        • noahyay
          Registered User
          • Aug 2004
          • 350

          #79
          call me stupid but i dont understand how this works

          is this it or something else?
          rt pro w/ lvlx etc.
          custom milled out y frame
          empire barrel kit
          ult
          custom 15 degree
          custom milled rail
          cut ule body
          steel hose with QD's
          custom welded drop
          90/45 nitro duck x-stream
          halo tsa w/ custom paint job
          soon to get warp

          custom palmer microrock front grip for future trigger for ^

          http://www.noahkool.com

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          • the electrician
            Registered User
            • Jan 2002
            • 542

            #80
            if you read my posts, i tell exactly how it works.

            your kinda close, but no there's no motor, and no autococker 4-way.
            ~E~

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            • noahyay
              Registered User
              • Aug 2004
              • 350

              #81
              thanks electritian

              "but really, alot of it is handmade, it would take a book to explain an describe what you need to do to make the stuff. "


              i think everyone wants to buy books
              rt pro w/ lvlx etc.
              custom milled out y frame
              empire barrel kit
              ult
              custom 15 degree
              custom milled rail
              cut ule body
              steel hose with QD's
              custom welded drop
              90/45 nitro duck x-stream
              halo tsa w/ custom paint job
              soon to get warp

              custom palmer microrock front grip for future trigger for ^

              http://www.noahkool.com

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              • noahyay
                Registered User
                • Aug 2004
                • 350

                #82
                computer art class paid off:
                rt pro w/ lvlx etc.
                custom milled out y frame
                empire barrel kit
                ult
                custom 15 degree
                custom milled rail
                cut ule body
                steel hose with QD's
                custom welded drop
                90/45 nitro duck x-stream
                halo tsa w/ custom paint job
                soon to get warp

                custom palmer microrock front grip for future trigger for ^

                http://www.noahkool.com

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                • Ballin with a MAG
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 185

                  #83
                  hey man that gun set up is super sick i give you mad props
                  Ebay feedback- http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll


                  AO feedback- http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=150642

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                  • the electrician
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 542

                    #84
                    thank you.

                    I've been wanting to make one out of a logic vert frame.


                    noahyay-

                    yep that's it, basically. the 3-way is special order, it is connected to a custom made manifold that attaches it to the bottom of the MPA-3 acuator. the actuator has been milled flat on the bottom to give it a place to seat an o-ring against the manifold.

                    a small stainless piston was turned from a piece of 1/4" stainless rod. this is what actually pushes on the sear from inside the mpa-3.

                    the trigger uses opposing magnets instead of a return spring. the magnet in the frame is adjustable so as to change the trigger pull force to the desired amount. the trigger is adjustable with a front stop and back stop set screw, along with a "point of actuation" set screw that engages the micro switch.
                    it is very walkable.

                    what else?
                    ~E~

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                    • the electrician
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 542

                      #85
                      oh yeah!

                      almost forgot, this is what it looks like now.
                      (sorry about the dark pics)
                      the rail has bveen milled for a sleeker look. it is soon to be all black.




                      ~E~

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                      • noahyay
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 350

                        #86
                        my thread bout my trigger idea: http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=149170

                        edit: check out http://www.noahkool.com for animations
                        Last edited by noahyay; 08-20-2004, 08:11 PM.
                        rt pro w/ lvlx etc.
                        custom milled out y frame
                        empire barrel kit
                        ult
                        custom 15 degree
                        custom milled rail
                        cut ule body
                        steel hose with QD's
                        custom welded drop
                        90/45 nitro duck x-stream
                        halo tsa w/ custom paint job
                        soon to get warp

                        custom palmer microrock front grip for future trigger for ^

                        http://www.noahkool.com

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                        • nate2k191
                          texas a+m maroon
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 1170

                          #87
                          the electrician: Brilliant sir. brilliant.
                          -fully upped mech mag (magzilla) www.havoc-online.com
                          -upped 68 mag (class) My Feedback AIM = nate2k191
                          -live in peace TK-
                          AO-TX

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                          • danoxide
                            posts:300
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 406

                            #88
                            does that LPR (or whatever type reg is out there)need to be on there?



                            aim-sok845

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                            • noahyay
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 350

                              #89
                              yes it does because the pnematics are pressure rated for 100 psi and the output of a tank is over 700psi.

                              the ram is a micro rock or rock reg because it can handle input pressures of 1200
                              rt pro w/ lvlx etc.
                              custom milled out y frame
                              empire barrel kit
                              ult
                              custom 15 degree
                              custom milled rail
                              cut ule body
                              steel hose with QD's
                              custom welded drop
                              90/45 nitro duck x-stream
                              halo tsa w/ custom paint job
                              soon to get warp

                              custom palmer microrock front grip for future trigger for ^

                              http://www.noahkool.com

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                              • danoxide
                                posts:300
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 406

                                #90
                                what if you had an inline reg instead of a forgrip or if you had an adjustible tank?


                                aim-sok845

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