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  • drg
    Half-cocked
    • Oct 2004
    • 1112

    #121
    Originally posted by Hilltop Customs
    If someone accepts the word engineered as having no set requirements, they shouldnt be using the word since it has no meaning to them. Ask an engineer what it means when they have engineered something.....then you have the definition.

    Its true that the definition may very depending who your talking to, but you should agree an engineered product should never dip below acceptable. Have the customers here found their frames acceptable so far? If the frame were engineered they wouldnt be 10 months late, engineering extends well in to product planning/shipping scheduling/delivery dates.

    What I posted earlier was my definition of engineered, as an engineer myself....I would never accept anything less. Engineers who do accept less are huge liabilities.
    I would never dispute your right to your own personal definition but generally speaking the accepted definitions of words in common communications can be found in general-purpose dictionaries, and in those the definition of 'engineer' is quite a bit less specific than yours. After all, we hear about sports teams "engineering" comebacks all the time.

    In common discussion a term like "engineered to a high standard" or "professionally engineered" might be more appropriate for the thought you are trying to convey.
    View my feedback here

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    • Hilltop Customs
      Registered User
      • Aug 2007
      • 1260

      #122
      well then we should look at the context it was used:
      Originally posted by warbeak2099
      But this is a production product that has been meticulously engineered (to the point of making us wait way too long for our frames lol). It's obviously going to perform better. Your guys' frames are still unique and cool though.
      ahem....



      insixdays777: because it would really only take a few hours for someone to retrofit a frame using his method of action. To put it into production would take longer.....but none of this matters because he contradicted EVERY claim for not posing pictures of production frames when he gave us detailed internal photos of the prototype in the manual.

      Ive said this at least 3 times now: He could have gave general photos that showed no internal workings....i dont think anyone would dispute he was working on frames if he posted a blurry picture of 100 frames covering a table, because why else would he have 100 frames lying around? His design would not be shared, and the customers would have gained proof that he was doing something......sounds like a win win situation to me, too bad Garf didnt see it that way. Instead he released a how to guide of copying his frame design in the form of his manual.

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      • warbeak2099
        That is my foot!
        • Jan 2004
        • 4447

        #123
        Originally posted by Hilltop Customs
        well then we should look at the context it was used:
        I'd say it was pretty accurate to describe someone who designed a product to perform within certain parameters.
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        • drg
          Half-cocked
          • Oct 2004
          • 1112

          #124
          Originally posted by Hilltop Customs
          well then we should look at the context it was used:
          I thought you were talking about my usage of it
          View my feedback here

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          • Warwitch
            Resident Skeptic

            • May 2006
            • 3176

            #125
            Originally posted by cyberave68
            Where else would you sell mag parts? If i'm not mistaken these are mag frames ...right????
            And why send them to everybody else first?

            Sounds funny to me....

            Except no one is laughing. You guys that are getting stiffed ought to chip in and hire The Dog to go bust Garf's head.

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            • J_Kizzy

              #126
              Originally posted by Warwitch
              Except no one is laughing. You guys that are getting stiffed ought to chip in and hire The Dog to go bust Garf's head.
              Please, that mullet sporting reject wouldn't find his own bounty in his skin-tight bleach white jeans.

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              • Warwitch
                Resident Skeptic

                • May 2006
                • 3176

                #127
                Originally posted by J_Kizzy
                Please, that mullet sporting reject wouldn't find his own bounty in his skin-tight bleach white jeans.

                He may be aging (and look like a tool) but dont think he got to where he is being a schlep.

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                • insixdays777
                  Long Live AGD
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 857

                  #128
                  Speaking of the DOG...I saw a comercial for the new season...though it showed him running after people using tippman a-5 with pepper balls? WTF?

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                  • WickedKlown2
                    Hellions ODB 130
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 332

                    #129
                    Originally posted by J_Kizzy
                    Please, that mullet sporting reject wouldn't find his own bounty in his skin-tight bleach white jeans.

                    J Kizzy,

                    Do you have something worth while to post here or are you just Thread Crapping ???

                    WK2

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                    • Warwitch
                      Resident Skeptic

                      • May 2006
                      • 3176

                      #130
                      Originally posted by insixdays777
                      Speaking of the DOG...I saw a comercial for the new season...though it showed him running after people using tippman a-5 with pepper balls? WTF?

                      Yeah I saw that too. Heh, The Dog is an agglet.

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                      • J_Kizzy

                        #131
                        Originally posted by Warwitch
                        He may be aging (and look like a tool) but dont think he got to where he is being a schlep.
                        Please, the only worthwhile thing he ever did was apologize for alleged "racist" comments from a private cell phone conversation between he and his son. Why was that worthwhile you may ask? It was worthwhile because it showed how weak of a person he really is, willing to do anything to save face even if it means not standing behind what he said.*

                        Originally posted by WickedKlown2
                        J Kizzy,

                        Do you have something worth while to post here or are you just Thread Crapping ???

                        WK2
                        Hmm, yet you feel the need to post and call me out? Take a step back and realize that my comment regarding Duane Chapman was a very true and very awesome one.


                        *I'm not defending what he said, but one should possess and display a little more gumption.


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                        Originally posted by Warwitch
                        lol, see Kizzy, thats exactly what I was talking about. Should change your user title to Flaming Troll Extrordinare.
                        Oh, oh, oh... who's clogging up the thread now?
                        Last edited by Guest; 08-14-2008, 02:55 PM. Reason: Someone else tried to step to me.

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                        • Warwitch
                          Resident Skeptic

                          • May 2006
                          • 3176

                          #132
                          Dude, you dont have to be a douche every day of your life Kizzy. Im guessing its a personal choice though so maybe you do. This thread was OT until you chimed in (again). People like you are the reason I moved out of Miami. :e-turd:



                          Sooooo, back OT; doesnt anyone on AO live within driving distance to Garf's shop?
                          Last edited by Warwitch; 08-14-2008, 03:17 PM.

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                          • insixdays777
                            Long Live AGD
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 857

                            #133
                            Warwitch...that would be JadeMonkey

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                            • Hilltop Customs
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1260

                              #134
                              Originally posted by drg
                              I thought you were talking about my usage of it
                              I think you see where I was coming from now...

                              I thought I was off topic with my posts....and now you guys are talking about the dog? lol

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                              • Warwitch
                                Resident Skeptic

                                • May 2006
                                • 3176

                                #135
                                Originally posted by Hilltop Customs
                                I think you see where I was coming from now...

                                I thought I was off topic with my posts....and now you guys are talking about the dog? lol

                                I was just implying that maybe a little muscle (legal even) in is order to get what everyone paid for. Hell I wish I lived close enough to help you guys myslef. I dont mind being "that guy".

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