Tiberius Sniper Rounds, Info from TK

[Sumthinwicked]

surprised no one has mentioned modifying a rail and body so it can be "broken" in half like the old double barrel shot guns.

gl on that noise bomb in motion youd need a way to keep it all together

[Smoothice]

gl on that noise bomb in motion youd need a way to keep it all together

Hose clamps for the win. A hinge on the bottom and weld a latch of sorts to the top of the body.

[Sumthinwicked]

like i said b4 gl on that noise

[leloup]

The main problem I see with this is that people would actually have to start aiming their shots, instead of firing and adjusting. Not too hard for pump players, though.

I think this product will have little to moderate success, appealing to a small market. It is kind of like going to a big senario game and some people will buy grenades, while most will not partake because of the added cost. Now, if the patents and rights for production were made so that all of the paintball manufacturers could improve on and produce, the competition would drive down prices to a level where people might buy them on a regular basis. To sum it up, if we don't see more competition with these new types of paint, then I doubt they will be very successful. Sorry to be a pessimist on such an interesting concept.

I have an idea for a bolt-less marker that these rounds would be perfect for, and very easy to load. Any one here want to take the challenge of designing a completely different type of marker (or have the means to)? Pm me, and I will divulge the details.

[Sumthinwicked]

The main problem I see with this is that people would actually have to start aiming their shots, instead of firing and adjusting. Not too hard for pump players, though.

I think this product will have little to moderate success, appealing to a small market. It is kind of like going to a big senario game and some people will buy grenades, while most will not partake because of the added cost. Now, if the patents and rights for production were made so that all of the paintball manufacturers could improve on and produce, the competition would drive down prices to a level where people might buy them on a regular basis. To sum it up, if we don't see more competition with these new types of paint, then I doubt they will be very successful. Sorry to be a pessimist on such an interesting concept.

I have an idea for a bolt-less marker that these rounds would be perfect for, and very easy to load. Any one here want to take the challenge of designing a completely different type of marker (or have the means to)? Pm me, and I will divulge the details.

lemme guess a blowgun :) which might be a good idea for these a tent pole does wonders if its the right size LOL!

[leloup]

lemme guess a blowgun :) which might be a good idea for these a tent pole does wonders if its the right size LOL!

Not quite. But good guess.

[druid]

On all the other forums I've posted on about this round, I have not much that's good to say about it. My reasons come from the fact that I have extensive knowledge on the FN303 (we use 6 at work) and this round is not much different. I know what the unweighted, clear 303 training round does and for all intents and purposes, this thing isn't that different. I've argued that the fin cylinder on the back of the round WILL cause extensive or added damage because the construct of that fin is different than the front, that the added serrations fromn the inpact will cause additional damage to soft tissue and the fact that we encounter so many MORONS on the field that amp up their markers ON PURPOSE.......let alone those few that will spike from CO2 use.

Don't believe me? Look at this:

http://milsimempire.com/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=5116&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15

Can I let out the "I told you so" now or should I wait for later?

[chill will]

lemme guess a blowgun :) which might be a good idea for these a tent pole does wonders if its the right size LOL!

Nawww, you cant crono blow guns or sling shots so insurance companies wont cover field owners. But that could have changes with the invention of that bow & airow gun.

[Beemer]

On all the other forums I've posted on about this round, I have not much that's good to say about it. My reasons come from the fact that I have extensive knowledge on the FN303 (we use 6 at work) and this round is not much different. I know what the unweighted, clear 303 training round does and for all intents and purposes, this thing isn't that different. I've argued that the fin cylinder on the back of the round WILL cause extensive or added damage because the construct of that fin is different than the front, that the added serrations fromn the inpact will cause additional damage to soft tissue and the fact that we encounter so many MORONS on the field that amp up their markers ON PURPOSE.......let alone those few that will spike from CO2 use.

Don't believe me? Look at this:

http://milsimempire.com/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=5116&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15

Can I let out the "I told you so" now or should I wait for later?

Your concerns hold true for a painball also.

So enlighten me with your extensive knowledge. What does the 303 round weigh? What is this unweighted clear 303 training round of which you speak?
Got a pic?

The first strike has a shell weight of about 0.7 grams and the rest is fill or paint to equil 3.1 grams. Four tenths below ASTM max of 3.5 grams.

Oh looky at these paintball hits. I can see the fin damage from them plain and clear.

So whats a safe distance to get shot with a 3.5 gram ball at 300FPS?

PaintBall hits

[druid]

well, MIke from TechPB did a chronod 50' test and I must say that I'm MUCH more at ease about this round than I have been:

http://www.techpb.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26303

Everything's on unaltered/unedited tape...he's got it chrono'd to about ~278 and shooting it at ~50' and with clothing on, no one seems to be getting cut with the fins.

I still am a bit reserved about a closer shot from a hot marker though......

[hitech]

I know what the unweighted, clear 303 training round does and for all intents and purposes, this thing isn't that different.

BTW, it (the First Strike round) is a lot different. The design of the 303 round was simply a starting point.

[cledford]

[hitech]

I first started playing the game back in 1986 at the ripe age of 14...-Calvin

Me too, except that I was 26. EVERYTHING else is exactly how it went for me, except that I played in tournaments for a short time.

If you ever get out to the west coast I can find you a game you will still like. The scenario game by TAW are great. It's about the only paintball I play these days. It's run by great people who actually love the sport of paintball. Everyone is made to feel like they belong. I even generaled there on my third TAW scenario game

I've had better speedball experiences than you, but I've had a few that were like yours. Now I play scenario and the fun is back.

Nice to see you poking in. I always enjoyed reading your posts. I believe you were one of the few people to actually change my mind on a subject.

[Flycatchr]

Hi guys/girls

i have taken two days to read through this thread - and loving it (what with RL and gaming and stuff )

like cledford, i started youngish - second time i played was with my new ranges equipment, and ran the range with my brothers for 15 years.

A)
I have seen my fair share of welts and wounds from my customers. we had a chap roll into a barrel in the grass and his neck got a paintball sized flesh cut out of it. this leads me to the seemingly unanswered question of what the plastic "flight" will do to skin, and whether that will be used by other "opponents" to the FS. My point is not to throw cold water on this awesome inovation, but to get a solid answer, and to say that paintball themselves can hurt.

B)
i have a very old mag, the one with the feeder sticking out at 45 degrees from the body. now i was wondering, surely you could "cut" a FS shaped hole into the body and barrel (it would only entail squaring off the back of the hole on the barrel) and then you can even turn the barrel the other way when using normall hopper. IE, breech loading - open breech, lay round in, close breach, turn barrel, first round is a FS, and then you have as much paint as you need until the next gap to load a FS.

C)
someone mentioned the airogun, which i have. and i like to boast that i have played against angels with it. AWESOME FUN. i havent tested the muzzle velocity, but i reckon at least 250 fps. my chronie disappeared when we closed the range
For those that are interested, look at the loading mechanism and it would/should EASILY work for the SF.

D)
talking about rifled barrels - i had a 16" armson barrel given to me which i converted to use on my A5. i sold my flatline because the armson clearly outperformed it. (not neccesarily in distance - i was just uncomfortable with the flatline). i would love cockerpunk to do some more tests on that particular barrel, ito accuracy and stuff - if he has, please post a link, i did find some on youtube, but here in sunny SA we dont have the best of DL speeds.

E)
Just for interest sake, i have a 15" Custom Product ported barrel for the mag, and it is really quiet. has anyone done/know of tests for the quietest barrels/guns (cockerpunk?) i havent searched these forums yet, and can, since i have only just thought of this. has anyone made a silencing shroud for the body to quieten the actual gun noise?

Fly

[malJohann]

..but here in sunny SA we dont have the best of DL speeds...

As in South-Africa? If so, send me a PM, I'm in SA too. Always good to meet local 'maggers.