AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
Since he's not doing it himself, I'll pimp it for him. Billmi's got a video with Gary Gibson from Perfect Circle (who makes the Tiberius & FN303 rounds) at http://www.pigtv.net
Beemer, it says the shape is spherical, and it's the dimensions that are commonly .68. I don't think that will be an issue anywhere though, especially if all the performance requirements are met, which I fully expect they are.
Gunga, thanks bro. I did mention it earlier, but I'm so annoyed by people that over-pimp themselves in forums, so I make a concerted effort not to over-do it myself. I will point out, now that you mention it, that I'm the only person in media to have done enough background research to ask Gary about his past as an athlete.
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Beemer, it says the shape is Gunga, thanks bro. I did mention it earlier, but I'm so annoyed by people that over-pimp themselves in forums, so I make a concerted effort not to over-do it myself. I will point out, now that you mention it, that I'm the only person in media to have done enough background research to ask Gary about his past as an athlete.
Guess that's what I get for skimming the thread. Oh well. If it gets you more website traffic...
Wonder if Gary's still got that Miata that he and TK hung by a CF gripframe way back when.
I could certainly see this making the Splatmaster dangerous again. This is going to take a while to get my head around it - I mean, this is probably about as close to what we all wanted paintball to be like, waaaaaaay back in the day when pistols were the norm.
I don't think it would have as much of an effect on the Speedball crowd, but I can definitely see this as a major game-changer on the scenario & woodsball side of the sport. Cost will definitely come down over time, but unless you develop a much larger feeding mechanism (like a drum magazine) you're going to be limited to the clip size.
Again, it will be interesting to see how the sport reacts.
Honestly I hope this stays as option for pumps and low rate of fire semis, as I would think it would add an interesting dynamic to the game and make pumps more appealing to a larger number pf players
If this round happens to do well in the scenario sector of paintball I can see the automags taking advantage of this new round. All that may be needed to be change is the main body and a feed system THINK about it AGD.
or something similar to my set up using the FS round
i would like to see whats further this or the tippmann flatline
Distance might be close for both but accuracy and velocity at the far end would be on the First Strike. The Flatline round would just bounce off your target at the extreme end of the range not to mention accuracy would be all over the place for the flatline round.
If your laying down suppression fire, go with the flatline, it would be cheaper. If you want to take out your target I think first strike would be the preferred choice.
would it go further if there were no fins on the back end?
not talking accuracy, just range
i would like to see whats further this or the tippmann flatline
but moneys on the first strike
I had the same thoughts, but the flatline's accuracy problem is its secret to better distance. Up to a point, a larger seam on the paintball will give it more lift if the seam comes out mostly horizontal. Keeping the seams the same size and orientation is pretty impossible.
I wonder if you could "handload" a tippmann SMG stripper clip, put it through an SMG with a flatline barrel (mod) and see an accuracy improvement.
The spinning on the FS helps the aerodynamics a little by delaying the collapse of the air flow just behind the skirt. More importantly, it compensates for manufacturing and handling defects like bent fins by "spreading the love" evenly in flight. We should see beat-up FS rounds still going straight, but not as far. Considering the price and some of the grassy fields where I expect to see these used, I will probably try to reuse any that I find whole.
I had the same thoughts, but the flatline's accuracy problem is its secret to better distance. Up to a point, a larger seam on the paintball will give it more lift if the seam comes out mostly horizontal. Keeping the seams the same size and orientation is pretty impossible.
I wonder if you could "handload" a tippmann SMG stripper clip, put it through an SMG with a flatline barrel (mod) and see an accuracy improvement.
The spinning on the FS helps the aerodynamics a little by delaying the collapse of the air flow just behind the skirt. More importantly, it compensates for manufacturing and handling defects like bent fins by "spreading the love" evenly in flight. We should see beat-up FS rounds still going straight, but not as far. Considering the price and some of the grassy fields where I expect to see these used, I will probably try to reuse any that I find whole.
I think the first strike and flatline are totaly not compatable.
Thre first strike will be rotating/spining along the axis of flight.
The flatline puts backspin (I think) on the ball so if it where able to put any spin on a first strike that spin would make it flip around and you would lose the effect of the fins.
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