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  • DevilMan
    FeedBack is at my HomePage
    • Aug 2004
    • 2479

    #196
    Originally posted by smoothice
    What are the measurements of these rounds from tip to tail?
    That's the issue Smooth... The length of the round.... It's longer than a normal ball in the way it's made. You could make a stick feed that would go onto the Z like that, but it'd be the same as a micromag feed. The hole in the body would have to be drilled out lengthwise to allow the round to feed into it.

    I've got something in my head that would work with only a minor build/make and it would consist of loading the FS round into a "clip strip" think of the old cap guns that had the caps in a little plastic holder... the one side of the breech would be open to allow the FS round to enter the other side would only have a "slot" cut in it to allow the plastic to exit the breech. Right now it'd be hand fed across, but with just a touch of work it could be easily made to a stripless feed, by using a flat box shaped tray to allow the rounds to roll into place.

    Thing is this round isn't going to be for the quick shooters as the cost is up there per round.... But for the folks that sit back and enjoy the messing with the other folks one shot at a time...

    DM

    EDIT: Something like this....

    If you had a breech on the marker that had an opening on one side that allowed the FS round to go into it sideways, and the other side had just a slot cut into it that was about 3MM in width or the width of the plastic strip clip, you'd simply push the clip from one side to the other. If you made the clip and the breech right you could work in an index into them to where it would almost "latch" into place. The empty side of the clip would be flexible while the side that still had ammo would not be so the empty side could be made to want to push up into a latch type part of the slot so as to keep the rounds in place and not fall out the breech. Now you take this same setup and run a "box" over to the side and down and put a spring system in it that would push the rounds up and over and you could be good to go, but alas that's something else that would take forever to reload.
    Last edited by DevilMan; 02-16-2009, 03:06 PM.

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    • manike
      INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

      • Jan 2001
      • 3820

      #197
      Originally posted by smoothice
      What are the measurements of these rounds from tip to tail?
      0.686"

      But you have to remember that in side profile the back is square which means they can't drop into the breech of a normal gun in the orientation required for them to be fired.

      It's kind of like a square plug won't go into a round hole.

      As for the other dimensional discussions, they appear to be almost identical to my FN303 rounds for the base dimensions, but the tails on several of the FS rounds are oval (I suspect not on purpose but due to the manufacturing with such a thin wall) and this means that the dimensions can be larger or smaller than the equator depending on how you measure them.

      Mine are all around 0.686 at the equator too.

      Unfortunately this means they don't fit into my glass barrel which is 0.68
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      • MoeMag
        Still here.
        • Dec 2005
        • 1821

        #198
        Originally posted by DevilMan
        That's the issue Smooth... The length of the round.... It's longer than a normal ball in the way it's made. You could make a stick feed that would go onto the Z like that, but it'd be the same as a micromag feed. The hole in the body would have to be drilled out lengthwise to allow the round to feed into it.

        I've got something in my head that would work with only a minor build/make and it would consist of loading the FS round into a "clip strip" think of the old cap guns that had the caps in a little plastic holder... the one side of the breech would be open to allow the FS round to enter the other side would only have a "slot" cut in it to allow the plastic to exit the breech. Right now it'd be hand fed across, but with just a touch of work it could be easily made to a stripless feed, by using a flat box shaped tray to allow the rounds to roll into place.

        Thing is this round isn't going to be for the quick shooters as the cost is up there per round.... But for the folks that sit back and enjoy the messing with the other folks one shot at a time...

        DM

        EDIT: Something like this....

        If you had a breech on the marker that had an opening on one side that allowed the FS round to go into it sideways, and the other side had just a slot cut into it that was about 3MM in width or the width of the plastic strip clip, you'd simply push the clip from one side to the other. If you made the clip and the breech right you could work in an index into them to where it would almost "latch" into place. The empty side of the clip would be flexible while the side that still had ammo would not be so the empty side could be made to want to push up into a latch type part of the slot so as to keep the rounds in place and not fall out the breech. Now you take this same setup and run a "box" over to the side and down and put a spring system in it that would push the rounds up and over and you could be good to go, but alas that's something else that would take forever to reload.

        Tippmann SMG 60/68
        Last edited by MoeMag; 02-16-2009, 03:31 PM.

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        • Beemer
          I could tell you but then.

          • Oct 2003
          • 3250

          #199
          Originally posted by manike
          0.686"

          Mine are all around 0.686 at the equator too.

          Unfortunately this means they don't fit into my glass barrel which is 0.68
          Now I dont feel so bad. This vid said .684 equator and .679 length.

          http://www.youtube.com/gerglmuff Cockerpunk's Thoughts on the new Tiberious Rounds .

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          • BigEvil
            www.BigEvilOnline.com

            • Feb 2005
            • 9333

            #200
            Originally posted by MoeMag

            Tippmann SMG 60/68

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            • DevilMan
              FeedBack is at my HomePage
              • Aug 2004
              • 2479

              #201
              Originally posted by MoeMag

              Tippmann SMG 60/68
              Yeah MoeMag... I've never seen one of those in the flesh and had no idea that's how they worked.... So yeah... basically what it would need...

              So how many tippy fans are there that still have one of these in the closet???

              DM

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              • cockerpunk
                Haters Gonna Hate
                • Sep 2004
                • 1383

                #202
                Originally posted by Beemer
                Now I dont feel so bad. This vid said .684 equator and .679 length.

                http://www.youtube.com/gerglmuff Cockerpunk's Thoughts on the new Tiberious Rounds .
                yeah i got them to come out abit shorter then you simon. i was happy to see that because i dont want to have to make a custom bolt stroke length sniper to shoot them. the bolt stroke will remain the same, just the loading port and the loading mechanism need to be changed.
                "because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"

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                • ultralight
                  Tool Weilding Ape
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 770

                  #203
                  HA! Now we can't laugh at the kids who have a "sidearm" in a holster in addition to their main marker. The sidearm may become the new sniper's weapon, like Halo.

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                  • BigEvil
                    www.BigEvilOnline.com

                    • Feb 2005
                    • 9333

                    #204
                    Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but are these things biodegradable?

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                    • BigEvil
                      www.BigEvilOnline.com

                      • Feb 2005
                      • 9333

                      #205
                      Originally posted by cockerpunk
                      oh maybe i didn't post that one. its on my personal youtube channel www.youtube.com/gerglmuff
                      WTF is that shirt you are wearing?

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                      • Dawg047
                        Registered User

                        • Oct 2003
                        • 821

                        #206
                        Over the years, we have grown to just one style of marker. A marker that shoots reasonably fast at good range. Now, we have the possibility of a new style marker entering the scene. I like it, I like having options. I will have have a Micromag in my hand, Sydarm on my leg and "Sniper" on my back. Na, just kidding, I can pretty much hit anything with my Micromag I like the rounds though. I second the breach for the new Micro 2009!

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                        • Swamp Thing
                          Registered User

                          • Dec 2007
                          • 356

                          #207
                          T9

                          To above guy about T-9 with selector switch

                          The T-9 currently does what you are saying.

                          It has the ability to feed off the clip and then if you rotate the barrel 1/3 of a turn you can be feeding from a hopper/qloader/or longbow mag.

                          The barrel is twist lock so it takes a few seconds to change back and forth.

                          Swamp

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                          • hitech
                            Not a shedder of vortices
                            • Nov 2001
                            • 4775

                            #208
                            Originally posted by Swamp Thing
                            To above guy about T-9 with selector switch
                            I guess it really has been a long time since I've been here, no one knows me anymore...

                            Thanks for the answers; great minds and all that.


                            Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
                            Hitech is the man.... :eek: - Blennidae
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                            • AGD
                              The man from AGD

                              • Oct 2000
                              • 5916

                              #209
                              Originally posted by hitech
                              I guess it really has been a long time since I've been here, no one knows me anymore...
                              Thats what happens when you have been around FOREVER!

                              AGD
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                              • Spider-TW
                                U R techno-literate!

                                • Oct 2006
                                • 3554

                                #210
                                Originally posted by cockerpunk
                                yeah i got them to come out abit shorter then you simon. i was happy to see that because i dont want to have to make a custom bolt stroke length sniper to shoot them. the bolt stroke will remain the same, just the loading port and the loading mechanism need to be changed.
                                I was wondering if the shape of the tip of the bolt is important as well. Is there any problem with the edge of the skirt getting caught between the bolt and the breech, for instance.

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