So I was Thinking about a New Gun Design.....

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  • vf-xx
    Henchmen Inc.
    • Nov 2001
    • 3311

    #196
    Wouldn't the easiest way to do an on gun chrony be a pair of breakbeam eyes with a set seperation?

    They're readily available in the paintball world and the calculation should be simple / easy enough.
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    • RavishingEddie
      Creator of the EMAG 9

      • Feb 2006
      • 727

      #197
      How come there is so much talk about chrono on a gun. I haven't ever heard of such a demand in the paintball field. You chrono once and then forget about it. Also many fields require that you get chrono'd by a field rep so he can tag your gun. So even if you had such a device why would you need it since you are forced to use the fields chrono anyway?

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      • usagi_tetsu
        steel rabbit flings paint
        • Jul 2004
        • 205

        #198
        Originally posted by RavishingEddie
        How come there is so much talk about chrono on a gun. I haven't ever heard of such a demand in the paintball field. You chrono once and then forget about it. Also many fields require that you get chrono'd by a field rep so he can tag your gun. So even if you had such a device why would you need it since you are forced to use the fields chrono anyway?
        Where it started in this particular discussion was that it was believed that the gun would need to know, constantly, what velocity it is producing so that it could adjust its flow rate, on the fly. This would keep the marker more consistant, shot to shot, and also, coupled with info being streamed from the tank on how much volume remains and what pressure the reg is giving, let the marker dip deeper into the tank by adjusting dump chamber volume, dwell, and whatnot.

        Now, outside of this discussion, I could see having on-gun chronies being useful to the major tournament leagues. Couple each marker's chrony with a wireless transmitter, and the referees can get a constant stream of info. Yes, spikes do happen, but if someone is shooting consistantly hot, the closest on-field ref can be alerted and pull the player.

        Would an on-marker chrony be useful to us rec-ballers? Not particularly, aside from my first point about the gun design needing it.

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        • DevilMan
          FeedBack is at my HomePage
          • Aug 2004
          • 2479

          #199
          Originally posted by RavishingEddie
          How come there is so much talk about chrono on a gun. I haven't ever heard of such a demand in the paintball field. You chrono once and then forget about it. Also many fields require that you get chrono'd by a field rep so he can tag your gun. So even if you had such a device why would you need it since you are forced to use the fields chrono anyway?
          As Usagi states. It started as a way for the markers components to know how much air at what pressure and for how long. It wasn't a matter of being field legal, but a gauge as to how much work for the marker to do.

          The issue I have with that is, an on board chrono would measure the speed of the ball JUST shot. And we all know how much flux there is in balls out there. So if you shot a small bore ball that sealed the barrel poorly and it went to 275FPS when the limit is 285 the gun would compensate and maybe keep the dwell up a notch to speed the next shot up. The next one could be a nice fat sealing type ball that the extra time would cause you to shoot 305. The next shot would be pulled WAYYYYYY down because you'd be shooting hot. I think you can grasp the idea...

          That's the only thing I see wrong with the idea.

          DM

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          • Lohman446
            Useful posts: 7
            • Jun 2003
            • 9315

            #200
            http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/d...-do-exist.html

            This might be somewhat pertinent, at least some of the thoughts to the discussion
            "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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            • Rooster
              Registered User
              • Oct 2000
              • 1069

              #201
              It seems as if the high tech answer may be no answer at all. What is all goes back to is that you are using a very imperfect power source. Find a way to lose the gas, and a paintball gun becomes as accurate as any other gun. (That was shooting a round projectile without the benifit of rifling)

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              • vf-xx
                Henchmen Inc.
                • Nov 2001
                • 3311

                #202
                Everybody looks at me like I'm crazy when I tell them I'd like to make a coil gun style paintball gun....
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                • Ratt
                  I Beta-tested your girl...
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 883

                  #203
                  Originally posted by vf-xx
                  Everybody looks at me like I'm crazy when I tell them I'd like to make a coil gun style paintball gun....
                  What do you mean by a 'coil' style gun?

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                  • vf-xx
                    Henchmen Inc.
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 3311

                    #204
                    Coil Gun

                    Basically that design, but since the paint is obviously non metallic, you'd have to put a carriage that has some sort of return or safety stop so it doesn't fly out too.
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                    • CatoRockwell
                      Woodsballer
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 704

                      #205
                      I'll take mine in a railed body like the Tac-One. I'm thinking a Tan & darkbrown swirl.

                      How much is this going to run me?
                      I'll start saving now

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                      • sig11
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 95

                        #206
                        Originally posted by CatoRockwell
                        I'll take mine in a railed body like the Tac-One. I'm thinking a Tan & darkbrown swirl.

                        How much is this going to run me?
                        I'll start saving now
                        Send Nerobro a piezoelectric fuel injector and you never know...

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                        • PaintballEngineer
                          I'm the Nerd! Woot!
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 119

                          #207
                          Any developments?

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