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  • Patron God of Pirates
    ~pgop1.0
    • Apr 2002
    • 1196

    #31
    I say worry about the practicality later. This is a proof of concept, and a pretty awesome one. I'm sure Goatboy already has a more efficient loading system in mind.

    For some reason I would like to see this load like a cap gun. Pump players carry dozens of 10 round tubes. Maybe this could have a 6 round preloaded ring that the player could carry a whole bunch of?

    Just musing.

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    • GoatBoy
      Junior Mint
      • Jun 2003
      • 1399

      #32
      "Accuracy by aiming."


      Definitely not on the A-Team.

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      • BTAutoMag
        AO's Problem Child
        • Oct 2001
        • 7199

        #33
        Saw this on PBN

        Originally posted by Fubarius
        You can make FS rounds do a 90 degree turn, but you'd have to position the mag out the front since they like to make the turn with the noses of the rounds towards the curve...


        However, the breach drop bolt of the phantom is NOT well suited for FS rounds. You'd be quite likely to snag on the skirt of the round above the one you are feeding. This is an issue with a lot of the new mag fed semi's, and they just have slightly too big of bolts.

        Best to leave the dreams of First Strike sniper shots to the bore drop pumps.
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        • GoatBoy
          Junior Mint
          • Jun 2003
          • 1399

          #34
          Originally posted by BTAutoMag View Post
          Saw this on PBN
          Yeah I saw that too. No followup on whether or not it actually works or if it's ever been mated to a gun. Problem still exists -- when you pull the follower back to load it, the stack loses pressure, and you'll only get 1 shot, and the next will either be empty or a round will fall into the breech sideways. I know someone who made a straight FS magazine, and apparently it suffers this problem.


          So here's one of the games from today. Just a casual rec game. No misfeeds or anything of the sort; most of my reload time is me fumbling with 10rd tubes and pouch and not the actual reload, and a few times I reload while posted. I did get like a 100+ft single headshot through a small side window of the pill box/deer blind at 1:00 though.

          "Accuracy by aiming."


          Definitely not on the A-Team.

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          • 2xFast
            Registered User
            • Jun 2002
            • 88

            #35
            That is so awesome!

            Any chance of open sourcing the files so others can print their own if you don't plan on making a run?
            faster is better...

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            • GoatBoy
              Junior Mint
              • Jun 2003
              • 1399

              #36
              "Accuracy by aiming."


              Definitely not on the A-Team.

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              • Nobody
                Nobody's Perfect
                • Oct 2001
                • 3384

                #37
                why not use an impeller from a Tippmann Cyclone kit? those are while 2 tiered can be found in metal.

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                • BTAutoMag
                  AO's Problem Child
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 7199

                  #38
                  or in a soft pliable version
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                  • GoatBoy
                    Junior Mint
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 1399

                    #39
                    Oh geez why didn't I think of that.

                    I'll take a look at the part; I suspect it won't work because of different dimensions and different required part right in the middle, but that's a damn good idea.


                    Ehh, nope, those paddles are 5-shot and not 6, and they're not the right dimension.

                    Making 'em out of hard rubber would be fantastic though...

                    In light of that, maybe I'll 3D print a mold instead of the part itself and mold my own rubber parts...
                    Last edited by GoatBoy; 10-06-2013, 06:09 PM.
                    "Accuracy by aiming."


                    Definitely not on the A-Team.

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                    • BTAutoMag
                      AO's Problem Child
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 7199

                      #40
                      youre welcome
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                      • knownothingmags
                        RKM 3D Designs

                        • Apr 2010
                        • 4810

                        #41
                        Originally posted by GoatBoy View Post
                        Oh geez why didn't I think of that.

                        I'll take a look at the part; I suspect it won't work because of different dimensions and different required part right in the middle, but that's a damn good idea.


                        Ehh, nope, those paddles are 5-shot and not 6, and they're not the right dimension.

                        Making 'em out of hard rubber would be fantastic though...

                        In light of that, maybe I'll 3D print a mold instead of the part itself and mold my own rubber parts...
                        they make a flexible filament for your printer, its really nice stuff.
                        logoRKM 3D Designs

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                        • mpsd
                          Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

                          • Nov 2005
                          • 2778

                          #42
                          This is awesome! Any chance you could make a mounting bracket for a Warp left ULE body? If so, we wouldn't need to hack a SS body as you did. I'd love to have a kit like that on my warped pump Mag!

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                          • knownothingmags
                            RKM 3D Designs

                            • Apr 2010
                            • 4810

                            #43
                            Originally posted by mpsd View Post
                            This is awesome! Any chance you could make a mounting bracket for a Warp left ULE body? If so, we wouldn't need to hack a SS body as you did. I'd love to have a kit like that on my warped pump Mag!
                            I have that mount already made.
                            im working on a larger automated drum
                            just have to work positioning out. 12 rnds so far.
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                            • mpsd
                              Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

                              • Nov 2005
                              • 2778

                              #44
                              Well, I'll be in Seattle next week so if you want some funding to your project (by selling that warp left kit with the 6 rounds drum) let me know.

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                              • Levi
                                Registered User
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 249

                                #45
                                Nice work GoatBoy! This is really cool!



                                Originally posted by knownothingmags View Post
                                I have that mount already made.
                                im working on a larger automated drum
                                just have to work positioning out. 12 rnds so far.
                                KNM...
                                Did you have to mill out the feed port in the warp ULE body? Or does there happen to be enough clearance in there with the feedneck removed that the FS round will go through?

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