One Legged T-Rex (OLTR)

[Grelvire]

Interested, time for a new build. I'll have to get a mod one of your vert frames I already have.

[luke]

Its more that I believe the sear to be slightly foward on a classic rt. Cant say ive confirmed it but after several builds that seems to be my conclusion.

If that's the case a custom ram may be necessary and perhaps machine the back end of the valve housing. That is as long as the sear leg does not have added stroke length.

[tolar250]

If that's the case a custom ram may be necessary and perhaps machine the back end of the valve housing. That is as long as the sear leg does not have added stroke length.

i see no difference between the sear i pulled from the classic rt, and the rt sear i have. also with the sear axle installed i measured from the back edge of the front frame hole to the farthest edge of the sear axle: classic rt measured 2.9" and my rt length armada rail measured 2.95". i will take better measurements tomorrow morning with calipers at work. so the classic rt sear does sit farther forward.

[luke]

As long as the stroke isn't significantly longer there may be a solution. The issue with the valve would be the travel distance of the ram, the starting position cannot be changed but the face could be shaved some. If it has to travel to far it will eject itself out the back of the body or lose it's seal...

[cougar20th]

Just shave the front edge of the sear. Worked on the e90 rt and could still be used as a mech if needed.

[Chrome]

For the record: this is pretty darn neat, and reading about the improvements made compared to the prior cheater is cool. The original cheaters are always snapped up quick in the BST, so good to see more people with an opportunity to get in on one. Also, cool to see the wisdom of KAM flowing forward regarding production runs and such.

All that said, and I don't want to turn this into a pile of poo, but I'll be "that guy" as it doesn't look like anyone else has stepped up yet. Has all the legal voodoo with DW and or PTP been sorted out, or is this a "damn the torpedoes" kind of adventure? Just wouldn't want to see Luke step into the guano that is the paintball industry at large. . .

[TyeStick]

I'm interested.

[luke]

Just shave the front edge of the sear. Worked on the e90 rt and could still be used as a mech if needed.

If it's that simple, just sanding the front of the ram may be a better/easier route, probably wont even have to mess with the body. This ram is solid not hollowed out in the back like the zap ram.

[luke]

All that said, and I don't want to turn this into a pile of poo, but I'll be "that guy" as it doesn't look like anyone else has stepped up yet. Has all the legal voodoo with DW and or PTP been sorted out, or is this a "damn the torpedoes" kind of adventure? Just wouldn't want to see Luke step into the guano that is the paintball industry at large. . .

I was working with Forrest (Helped with properly reversed engineered files) to help him get the Zap Cheater to market but his machine shop bumped him for a larger job. He ask me to take over the project.

Personally I didn't like the Zap design and didn't want to copy it (Out of pride I guess) so to do the job I had to design my own cheater...

Also, cool to see the wisdom of KAM flowing forward regarding production runs and such.

I don't understand the reference?

[gotzskillz]

would love to have one of these for my build. I have and can only afford an intelli-frame, so ill have to wait i guess. But wouldn't mind offering my frame for testing within reason of course.

[Chrome]

Don't give it another thought; I'd rather not muck up the thread further. Question asked and answered on the legal front.

Now, more about the new cool shiny things!

[going_home]

Pretty sure the two pneumatic trigger patents are all encompassing, a bolt on completed trigger frame like Gforce.

This is just one component, the buyer would still have to get other components to complete the project.

Not to worry.

[luke]

Just finished another test (9pm in my garage, quiet neighborhood, no barrel) the first on a fully assembled marker, ReTro Valve .75" on/off pin, Level 10 Bolt, gold spring, no trigger stops, no trigger return magnets, three words, Sweet Baby Jesus!

50 psi to cheater is insanely walkable, couldn't seem to short stroke it if I tried, drop the pressure to 40 psi and the RT effect so badass it would have little boys on the field peeing themselves. Wow, that's all I have to say about that.

[captian pinky]

is it similar to the msv2 style 2 ways that vent when the trigger is held? or maybe that was just the one i had that needed an oring.

[luke]

is it similar to the msv2 style 2 ways that vent when the trigger is held? or maybe that was just the one i had that needed an oring.

There was nothing wrong with the MSV2, that is the way it's designed to work.