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[BigEvil]

Classic RT's did come with shorter on/off's .745 or even .740's were used to shorten the activation point. At that time that was cool stuff. .750 are now the stock pin again on RT ULE's.

My original one was .750+. I was very underwhelmed at the performance.

[Sandman]

IM pretty sure that a .744 pin is not a stock size. My new ones NEVER bounced.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...tomag-Level-10

Classic RT's did come with shorter on/off's .745 or even .740's were used to shorten the activation point. At that time that was cool stuff. .750 are now the stock pin again on RT ULE's.

[Sandman]

Most of that comes from uneducated speculation on how they operate. Its too bad. People often jump to conclusions based on misconceptions, not just in paintball. Any mag can be made to operate without being runaway reactive. Its easily tested. Any mechancial marker can be made to go full auto. That would mean all markers would be banned. Not because they are bad, but because they have the capability to be bad. Rule need to be put in place and any marker that meets those rules should be able to be used.

Amen Brother!

[punkncat]

How many mag guys do you know that play in the NXL ?

Mag guys play woods, not balloons in an open field....

Not the NXL, but I know myself and several other guys that DID play in the CFOA (since Larry Motes was a Mag fan) and WANTED to play in other series with variable results. It never was about desire, it was about what they let you do. Most of the issue that I ran into at that time was actually shooting over the allowed 15BPS.....of course it was an RT with about 1200PSI input pressure....

[Laku]

Mag guys play woods, not balloons in an open field....

I like both.

[zondo]

You got it, brother!



Scenario isn't my favorite, but I definitely concur that structures and small spaces with minimal shrubberies is the way to go.

Nothing is worse than having an otherwise clean shot with that one branch vacuuming up all your paint.

That's the only time I'd lay a stream of paint down... beat the branches into submission.


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[Menace_AO]

Woods, there is too much walking. Give me short and sweet, no branches deflecting my shots.

You got it, brother!

Woods??? Only when forced. Back in the day when airball first started I lived in it. Now a few decades later all I play is scenario. But now I live in the villages or other tight quarter areas with bunkers and minimal sticks and brush. I like the aspect of speedball vs the aspect of sniper. Guess I just get bored way to easy.

Scenario isn't my favorite, but I definitely concur that structures and small spaces with minimal shrubberies is the way to go.

Nothing is worse than having an otherwise clean shot with that one branch vacuuming up all your paint.

[blackdeath1k]

Woods??? Only when forced. Back in the day when airball first started I lived in it. Now a few decades later all I play is scenario. But now I live in the villages or other tight quarter areas with bunkers and minimal sticks and brush. I like the aspect of speedball vs the aspect of sniper. Guess I just get bored way to easy.

[Nobody]

Woods, there is too much walking. Give me short and sweet, no branches deflecting my shots.

[Menace_AO]

Mag guys play woods, not balloons in an open field....

I know a mag guy who always hated playing in the woods, and always preferred balloons (or whatever) in an open field.

[blackdeath1k]

IM pretty sure that a .744 pin is not a stock size. My new ones NEVER bounced.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...tomag-Level-10

This is a classic automagRT that I've had since 97. The pin in it is stock. Why it is .744 I do not know. I was on the understanding that the early automagRTs had a shorter pin in them than the latter ones did.

[BigEvil]

Oh I know there are ways to change it. Longer pin mainly. I was just stating that in original from it has bounce. On the flip side didn't they change the pin length not to long after the RT came out to slow the bounce down?

IM pretty sure that a .744 pin is not a stock size. My new ones NEVER bounced.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?67604-Tolerance-Specifications-E-Mag-RT-Pro-Minimag-Automag-Level-10

[blackdeath1k]

A couple of new orings, or possible a .750 pin would probably fix it right up.

Oh I know there are ways to change it. Longer pin mainly. I was just stating that in original from it has bounce. On the flip side didn't they change the pin length not to long after the RT came out to slow the bounce down?

[BigEvil]

I agree with almost all of the above. The mag and cocker are the most iconic. Don't think either is more so than the other. Also. My classic rt 100% stock other than Iframe with a normal 800-850psi tank still has bounce due to the 0.744 pin that originated in it. Very controllable and would only fire 10-12 bps at best. But it's still bounce.

A couple of new orings, or possible a .750 pin would probably fix it right up.

[blackdeath1k]

I agree with almost all of the above. The mag and cocker are the most iconic. Don't think either is more so than the other. Also. My classic rt 100% stock other than Iframe with a normal 800-850psi tank still has bounce due to the 0.744 pin that originated in it. Very controllable and would only fire 10-12 bps at best. But it's still bounce.