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  • TRIAD
    Registered User
    • Jun 2002
    • 889

    #46
    No offense snwbrdr913, but I'd like to see you get 13+ bps on a mechanical STO. Do you realize how fast your finger would have to be moving? I mean an electro, sure, but STO, no way.
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    • Jonneh
      A nice fellow.
      • May 2001
      • 990

      #47
      While an admirable quality, a high rate of fire is not the one thing that people want with their gun. From what I hear, the cocker, while a terribly complicated mess of hoses, air chambers, regulators and masking tape, is very consistant and works nicely on co2.

      I intend to own both, and thus I end this trolltacular post

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      • Miscue
        Super Moderator

        • Oct 2000
        • 7105

        #48
        Originally posted by snwbrdr913
        Actually the stock 'mag reg/valve thingy can only has a fill rate of 9 b.p.s.....
        ? You can easily do 13 with a Hyperframe... although it can cycle beyond that.

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        • Miscue
          Super Moderator

          • Oct 2000
          • 7105

          #49
          Originally posted by snwbrdr913
          actually E-mags that are sold to the public have a limit of 13 b.p.s on them for full auto and I can shoot faster doing semi on an STO than on a emag
          Stock Emags do not have full auto. They are capped at 16bps - semi.

          13+ bps on a cocker? Make sure you donate the hyper-tensile tendons in your trigger finger to science.

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          • FutureMagOwner
            Registered User
            • Dec 2001
            • 3354

            #50
            Originally posted by FooTemps


            Well, I know the emagnum isn't a stock emag but there are videos of it doing 22+BPS and doing 30CPS. I mean, the 30CPS emagnum outshoots every nitro tank except for one...(I forgot which tank don/butters used)

            i beleive they were using a completly open flow scuba tank and used a system x screw in one time and surprisingly it worked

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            • snwbrdr913
              some guy evidently
              • Jun 2002
              • 94

              #51
              actually at my field a guy with a mini black magic hit 16 b.p.s
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              • than205
                Dancer of the kookie jig!
                • Dec 2001
                • 947

                #52
                I don't even know why I brought up the BPS thing.
                I have come to totally dislike the BPS thing.
                I want to see someone do the numbers they are claiming at a sustained rate. Meaning, a string of two balls being fired based on a twitch of your finger that figures out to XX BPS is not really a good measure to me. It seems to me that there should be an agreed number of shots for a sustained rate to determine whether you have a super finger/s or not. I don't care if it's 10 balls, but definitely more than 3.

                Back to the origin of this thread.
                Use both. Learn about both. Make up your own mind.
                Weed through the hype. (a thought for myself also for bringing up the BPS thing)
                Buy both if you that's what you want.
                Thanotos

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                • FooTemps
                  HURRRR
                  • Sep 2001
                  • 6702

                  #53
                  Well, lets see... I own a mag and I'm part of AO. I've fired a lot of damn nice cockers but I'm loyal so I FINALLY decide to vote... AUTOMAGS!

                  .
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                  • FooTemps
                    HURRRR
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 6702

                    #54
                    Originally posted by snwbrdr913
                    actually at my field a guy with a mini black magic hit 16 b.p.s
                    I've seen a guy with a tricked spyder fire faster than that! lol.... Trust me, 16 bps is pushing the physical limits of a cocker. It's hard getting it up that high

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                    • Micewheelz72
                      pump player gone mag
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 19

                      #55
                      Id take the mag just for the simplicity, but thats just me.
                      And remember, as you are walking down the road of life, dont forget to stop and eat the roses.
                      - a farside clip. Larson
                      originally posted by Army...
                      No gun shoots flatter or farther or more accurate than another. That's fact, that's truth, that's reality, that's physics.....and that's that

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                      • FutureMagOwner
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 3354

                        #56
                        things like rams and the like can increase how fast the cocker cycles to a bit faster than 11(something around like 20 i think) but that doesnt matter because the fastest you can shoot is around 13 and even if you can shoot that fast doesnt mean you need to

                        EDIT just thought iof this after i hit the button: its like having a 38673867 horsepower engine that is practically weightless and only going 60mph (lol i just made up those #'s so dont take the #'s to realistically)

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                        • chris99506
                          i'm a Bare assed monkey
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 136

                          #57
                          cockers are money pits and for the first few months that you own it you will spend more time fixing it on the field than playing with it. if you dont get a mag or a cocker get a palmer blazer, they are like cockers only they don't suck
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                          • rehme
                            varmit slayer
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 1480

                            #58
                            what do you think so going to be highest one on a automag site but mag all the way but i do have to admit i like cockers also


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                            • MagNumPI
                              Team Storm
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 138

                              #59
                              A stock mag kills a stock cocker hands down, no ifs ands or buts about it.

                              And to make a cocker preform like a mag you need to dump some hard cash into her.
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                              • snwbrdr913
                                some guy evidently
                                • Jun 2002
                                • 94

                                #60
                                Shot a mag, loved the mag, shot a cocker, SOLD THE MAG AND BOUGHT A COCKER..... or at least i am
                                2002 Custom Vert Cocker
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