*video* racegun cocker at 20bps

[kutter]

You know, I just went back and read everyone of ddindc's post. It was most enlightening. His behavior since he joined AO can at the best of times be called barely civil, and at the worst of times, he is just plainly an obnoxious brat.

Now I truly believe that dissenting opinions are necessary. All of the truly great discoveries of the world were made by people of disssenting opinions, but they were people of logic and intelligence who applied reason, I don't think I need to go back over Butterfingers better covered attempts to elicit some logic and reson from ddindc.

Now there are at least 2 ways to deal with this.

We can ignore him and he will go away eventually, but just like that little sore in your mouth, its hard not to poke at him, I lack the willpower to do so

Or, we can continue to poke holes in his theories with facts and listen to him respond with juvenile attempts to flame family members and their sexual preferences, this is my personal favorite


Given the fact that he has been responsible for the closing of at least one thread, his generaly poor behaviour to date, and his seeming inability to get along with even some of the nicest people on the boards, I wonder if the mods have said anything to him about this?

At first I thought that perhaps he should not be here, but then I realized that every village needs an idiot.

Oh and ddindc, before you go spouting off about my siblings and parents some facts for you. Both parents dead, siblings are, given todays attitudes, very well adjusted and have been happily married to the same woman for 12 years. So bring on the rhetoric, cause I have insomnia tonight and the Crown Royal is flowing.

[einhander619]

ddindc, must be nice...

This is impressive, how did a chimpanzee with a raging case of Turret's Syndrome learn to type? But seriously, lay off him, guys. I see handicapped people on computers all the time. Sure, he pissed me off for a while. I'd make some jab at his sexuality or something, but it's just not worth the typing. "ddindc," you have succeeded in securing a position as an ironclad jackass, er, a math-flunking teenybopper with a copy of the smartparts catalog in one hand, and daddie's plastic in the other. This is the only time you will hear me address you personally, because nothing you could ever say from this day forward would make me waste any more time on you. I suggest to my fellow AO'ers that you do the same. Whatever you do, don't ban him, but never respond to another one of his posts again. "ddindc," I'll see you on the speedball field. I'll be shooting an RT. Peace.

[MrMag]

ddindc.............look bro, your are not gonna win this one, and frankly...........you are making a fool out of yourself. face it, arguing about this in a mag forum is not the right place. YOU HAVE LOST

[Marek]

Im lookin for a thread that shows a cocker shootin 17 bps. Any of u guys seen one???
Wow, this post went bad real quick huh.

Well, since this is a thread about a cocker shootin 17 bps, all i can say is that is a purty nice gun.

Too bad it couldnt have stayed that way. Oh well, it happens.

[HyperSnyper]

Very Interesting...

Just popped into this thread and was amazed at how it evolved into such as flameing nightmare.

ddindc, very interesting guy. He has to realise some day that it the scientists in the white jackets and pocket protectors with their degrees in engineering and science that create the technology we will have for the future (thats my path in college right now).

After all, who created all the ferraris and lamborghinis and even angels markers? You think race car drivers and paintball players make them? HAH! Like they even have the slightest clue on compression ratios, correct ignition timing for the cars or even the correct valve dwell and flow dynamics for a marker.

The more and more I read ddindc's posts, the more I understand him to be a mere lemming that follows others. Wants to get a Cocker since more pros use them. He seems to be the kind of person that would pick up and swear by a Brass Eagle Stingray once his favorite team Avalanche or whoever starts using them in the upcoming season.

ddindc, watch a Sprite commercial, you just may learn something...

-Hyper

[cphilip]

Banning ddindc for three days for excessive flaming and vulgar comments. Grow up and learn to argue without petty stupid personal attacks.

[shartley]

[kutter]

Oh yeah, by the way I thought the video of the gun was pretty impressive, my expereince with electronic cockers has always been something like this, I see someone with what looks sort of like a cocker but not quite at the field:

Me: Hey man, thats pretty trick, what is that?
Them: Well, when I can get the damn thing to work right its an electronic cocker.
Me: How often does that happen?
Them: Well, it was working perfect last night.
Me: Aw man, thats a bummer, you got another gun?

Now, I like cockers, how can you not, they have had just as much impact on the game as mags have and when they work right, they are a sweet shooting gun. If someone could get the electronics versions working right, well then I say variety is the spice of life. Its just like my father used to say. 'If everyone liked the same thing, someone would get killed in the rush.'

Just my opinions, I could be wrong.

[DarkRipper]

Originally posted by kutter
Oh yeah, by the way I thought the video of the gun was pretty impressive, my expereince with electronic cockers has always been something like this, I see someone with what looks sort of like a cocker but not quite at the field:

Me: Hey man, thats pretty trick, what is that?
Them: Well, when I can get the damn thing to work right its an electronic cocker.
Me: How often does that happen?
Them: Well, it was working perfect last night.
Me: Aw man, thats a bummer, you got another gun?

Now, I like cockers, how can you not, they have had just as much impact on the game as mags have and when they work right, they are a sweet shooting gun. If someone could get the electronics versions working right, well then I say variety is the spice of life. Its just like my father used to say. 'If everyone liked the same thing, someone would get killed in the rush.'

Just my opinions, I could be wrong.

Apparently you haven't seen a Racegun then. They work, and work, and work.

Mine has never gone down on me that wasn't my own stupid fault (IE, would have taken ANY gun down).

I suggest you check one out... you'll never see a Racegun owner saying "it worked last night..."

:)
DR

[shartley]

Originally posted by DarkRipper
I suggest you check one out... you'll never see a Racegun owner saying "it worked last night..."

:)
DR

HeeHee You know how easy it would be to twist that to meaning the opposite of what you want it to mean?

[cphilip]

Originally posted by DarkRipper
...Mine has never gone down on me

Well this one too! So what the point?

[JEDI]

What ever happened to doing something simply because you could. That video was very cool, and for some reason it sparks a whole "why would you do that" issue. I'm sure paint slinger wasn't trying to sell the use of racegun cockers. The same as AGD isn't telling us to run out and get modified full auto Emags with halos. But the video is damn cool. I bought an RT pro, cause I really wanted one for some time. two weeks later I had a pay check and no bills to pay, so on a whim went out and got an Emag which I love.
Now The Emag has the function of 2 guns in one, but who's gonna argue that Two guns isnt much cooler.

[Top Secret]

I don't think we are really the "why would you do/need that?" crowd here.

Emagnum, HALO B tests

nuff said.

[JEDI]

Exactly man! Thats my point. Invention and all that is cool is fueled by "just Because" & "Lets see what would happen if..." If everything had to make sense or serve a practical purpose, there would be no fun. If I posted a video of a full auto paint grenade launcher what would be the point of identifying its practical use or financial feasability? WHO CARES! Its cool.

[Vern1]

Greetings,

Apparently you haven't seen a Racegun then. They work, and work, and work.

Yeah, right up until they quit.

It's usually something stupid(self induced) like:
Forgot to charge it and the battery ran down in TWO DAYS!
Or you dry fired it until it shook the valve retaining nut out and completely destroyed the body.
Or the keypad quit working for no reason what-so-ever until you unplug and re-plug the battery.

When they work, they do work like magic.
When they don't - they don't - just like any other broken marker.
For the most part, they work and are fairly reliable.
Just use lots of locktite - preferably red.
From a purely mechanical standpoint, they are a beauty to behold with all that stuff wizzing around in sync.

Back to the video: Cool video, but full auto is LAME!
I mean, it's cool to show the capabilities of a marker or hopper, but show us something we, the average player, can really use on a field or tourney - semi auto, one shot, one pull - not someone just holding the trigger down.

As for accuracy/trajectory I offer this tidbit, I don't think it has been approached quite like this before: If you are shooting the same paint thru the same barrel at the same velocity, the TRAJECTORY should be the same, but the accuracy or shot grouping can be very different due to the stability of the launching platform.
Example, I'll use Mags and Cockers as that's what this arguement is about(don't flame me too bad!!):
Cockers use a tight fitting threadded barrel on a heavier, more stable platform.
Most Mags use a slip fit barrel with play - side to side and up and down and are generally lighter or less stable.
That may be part of the answer to the Cocker/Mag accuracy issues.
These are opinions based on observations and have absolutely no scientific backup, so don't beat me up with physics lessons.
As for the RaceGrip, I have owned a few and installed and tuned quite a few more on various markers from stock to heavily modified and they do quit just like anything else.

Thanks for reading....