*video* racegun cocker at 20bps

[DarkRipper]

Now that Sandridge put their electronics in the grip, they're actually worth buying... however their track record on repair work leaves something to be desired.

That's why I went with the Race over the Sandy. The Sandy is a nice gun, and the trigger is a bit nicer on it. I just don't like how many people have had trouble with customer service.


DR

[ddindc]

DR

DR, did you buy a complete gun built by Racegun, or just the frame? I'm thinking about getting a 'cocker, my first ever (I'm ditching the 'mag. I'm sick of AGD's excessivly long development time and sub-par performance. They constantly come up with "new advancements" that are one to two years behind the curve. Level ten? Its just a way to make the 'mag have 'cocker's low volume characteristics. Next they'll come up with something that will make the 'mag shoot flatter, even though they keep insisting that 'mag arc is just a myth). I'm torn between a mechanical cocker (a Works), or the new Racegun Half-Block. What do you think?

[Curly]

Those racegun half blocks are really sweet looking. If you can afford it i think that this would be the way to go.

[paintslinger]

Re: DR

Originally posted by ddindc
(I'm ditching the 'mag. I'm sick of AGD's excessivly long development time and sub-par performance. They constantly come up with "new advancements" that are one to two years behind the curve. Level ten? Its just a way to make the 'mag have 'cocker's low volume characteristics. Next they'll come up with something that will make the 'mag shoot flatter, even though they keep insisting that 'mag arc is just a myth

*puts flame suit on*

[AcemanPB]

Re: DR

Originally posted by ddindc
DR, did you buy a complete gun built by Racegun, or just the frame? I'm thinking about getting a 'cocker, my first ever (I'm ditching the 'mag. I'm sick of AGD's excessivly long development time and sub-par performance. They constantly come up with "new advancements" that are one to two years behind the curve. Level ten? Its just a way to make the 'mag have 'cocker's low volume characteristics. Next they'll come up with something that will make the 'mag shoot flatter, even though they keep insisting that 'mag arc is just a myth). I'm torn between a mechanical cocker (a Works), or the new Racegun Half-Block. What do you think?

i'm not gonna say anything but your asking for it

ps. if i remeber right the RT valve is STILL one of the fastest recharging vavles and it was made how many years ago? people on this board got the emag up to 30bps, how many other markers have done that? jesus and pick up a physics book it's not that hard


this is not a flame but i'm sure some are on thier way

[RT_Luver]

Originally posted by Curly


Or not. Ferrari is about performance and angels do not perform any better then electro cockers. I mean would you expect to have to replace your ferrari engine every six months like you have to replace the board on angels?

I would put a cocker witht he ferrati. their both tinker toys. Ferrari's are cars you have if you have a garage because you always need to adjust something or try to make it better

[ddindc]

I don't car how fast a valve cycles, I'm not buying it if it produces strings that look like freeking rainbows. I mean Christ, you puts some marbs in your mag's hopper and it looks like a freaking gay pride parade at the 'sup air field! Physics book? No thanks, I'd rather shoot some paint. That's the problem with AGD, they spend to much time researching excuses in physics textbooks and not enough time devolping products that work well.

[AcemanPB]

no seriously do you know what happens when you have the same paint to barrel match on different markers shooting the same FPS???? just about everyone else in the paintball comunity does (atleast the smart ones)

[ddindc]

So I guess you guys have developed all this insight on maintence characteristics of Ferraris from first hand expereince? Boy, some rich guys around here. Or maybe that's envy? Like looking at a beutiful girl and remarking "she must be high maintence." Do you guys suffer from 'cocker envy, too?

[ddindc]

You're right, Ace, I'm stupid. And so are just about every professional tourney player as well. There are other factors besides paint match. Open vs. Closed ring a bell? And ye shall worship at the foot of Kaye. Seriously, are you guys like Heaven's Gate or something? Do you have little uniforms with physics equations printed on them. "s=vt"

[AcemanPB]

well for the reccord my uncle does have a Ferraris and yes i have driven it


i didn't call you stupid, but this is fact, there have been numerous test on open vs. closed bolt and all of them have turned up the same answer... it doesn't matter

[ddindc]

Really, man you are special! I've drivenn about four Ferrairs in my lifetime (Testerosa, 355, 360, 550), and to the last one, none were excessivly maintence heavy. Infact, the 360 and 550 are every-day drivers, just like any other car. But Ace, youstill haven't cleared up the Open vs. Closed debate for me. What, you waiting on that answer from Tom, too?

[paintslinger]

oh jeebus here comes the open vs closed bolt arguement again...

[ddindc]

Really, "numerous test"? Performed by who? Oh, right, AGD. "Listen, don't believe your eyes, believe our biased test results!" I don't care how many tests AGD does, they still can't win over pros, the guys who make thier living on their markers. That speaks volumes. But everyone is entitled to their opinion, as long as their opinion is based on some rediculous brand loyalty. I shoot whatever shoots the best. AGD makes a marker as accurate and long as the 'cocker, I'll start shooting mags again. Till then, I'm getting a cocker. You guys can keep waiting and waiting and waiting for that extreme mag. Maybe switching over to a cocker barrel will flatten out that mag trajectory.

[rudy]

ddindc you could have a point but at least put some inteligence behind it. what do you think the half block is? its cockers trying to catch up with the rest of the guns they are slow. and dont blame AGD its not like wgp is exactly at the edge of technology most all the advancement of cockers is after market and it doesnt get taken in house till years after its been out. here is how it is. cockers had ball breakage under control if tuned right for a bit now. and AGD is trying to get it under control now. So you say they are behind the curve, but agd has had a gun that was fast for years. It was just a matter of where they started that determined what they are playing catch up with now.