Makers looking like real guns? good/bad??

**boomerfoxtrot** · 10-10-2002, 09:52 AM

oh yeah, here is the other model..

**cphilip** · 10-10-2002, 09:55 AM

Somebodies gonna get shot is all I can say....A certain amount of resembelance is inevitable though. But any more is not a good idea.

**boomerfoxtrot** · 10-10-2002, 10:15 AM

well.. I honestly think that if someone is dumb enough to walk around, pretending that paintball makers are real guns then it's their fault if they end up getting shot.

If people walk around holding their paintball makers in one hand and a bag in another... then they are setting themselves up. I don't any cops are going to start shooting just b/c you have what might be a gun in your hand... as long as you put it down and don't pretend it's a real gun.. and besides, you should have your maker in a case or bag of some short if your going out in public with it!

people just don't think.... the world has enough dumb people...

**cphilip** · 10-10-2002, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by boomerfoxtrot
well.. I honestly think that if someone is dumb enough to walk around, pretending that paintball makers are real guns then it's their fault if they end up getting shot.

Kids do it all the time...And manufacturers end up getting sued...

**boomerfoxtrot** · 10-10-2002, 10:24 AM

I think if anyone is to blame it would be the parents then...

stores shouldn't sell you paintball stuff unless your 18.. there is a reason... walmart sticks to this rule

**HYPER** · 10-10-2002, 10:54 AM

maker?

maker = marker?

you mean marker right? as in paintball marker? I noticed all through your above posts you call it a "maker" so that rules out a typo.

is there something im missing?

-Hyper

**boomerfoxtrot** · 10-10-2002, 10:56 AM

lol no.... I'm just lazy.. maker=marker

**Bulldog** · 10-10-2002, 11:03 AM

I think it's a bad idea, if I saw someone carring that gun down the street, he wouldn't have long before he had my gun aimed at him, and not much longer before he got shot.

*EDIT - unless he dropped it after I challenged him and moved away real quick* .

Besides, markers need to look like whatever is the most functional, reliable method of slinging paint. I think these guns are bad for the sport, and lend credence to the "kids with guns" image and "weekend warrior" stereotypes that plauge paintball. They're just not needed.

**RamboPreacher** · 10-10-2002, 11:07 AM

guess, since I am a noobee to AO, I am not sure where I like pies comes from, but I voted for "bad" for the sport, but with a exception.

Having a military background (if I tell you I would have to make sure that you never existed) - I like them, but only in specific circumstances. for me that would be in specific scenario games and for "alternate" versions of paintball.

I know that there are many who might disagree, but there are groups that play paintball with full military strategy in mind (I don't happen to agree with it, but I don't put them down for it). Personally, there is way too much diffference in "real" military strategy, to make it very similar.

Anyway, with the sport growing so wildly as it has in the last few years (how many of you here even know what a pumper is, let alone own one, and still use it - rhetorical question, for example) - I would like to see that kind (military look-a-likes) of paintball marker filtered from the public eye.

Paintball is fun!

the last thing I want to see (as far as PR goes for Paintball), is military looking, especially ones specificaly designed to look that way, on the speedball/tourney scene, or in other public view. Obviously the chances of that are slim, but you can't say it won't happen.

anyway - just my opinion.

**Paintchucker** · 10-10-2002, 11:22 AM

Different Strokes for Different Folks...

I think they look good. As for walking down the street with them, lets get real. Do you walk down the street with your paintball gun??? Let's face it, some people play in the woods, some people play speedball, some people play scenario games. Just cause they play differently than you do does not make them wrong. In scenario games, the more real the "marker" looks, the better. It gets the same admiration that an emag or angel gets on the speedball field.

Here is an interesting one. It shoots a special .40 cal paintball that loads from a 30 shot clip. Not sure where you would play with it, as it takes special paintballs that the local fields wouldn't have, so it would have to be BYOP. Only downside I see is the little plastic rings that hold the balls in the clips eject just like a real shell and cost an extra 2.5 cents each.

The japanese video is pretty cool, but those guys play pretty hardcore over there. Some had good masks, but some of the guys were playing with only shooting glasses on.

I do believe in calling them "markers" and when you get hit with a paintball you are "elimiated"...

**Pand0ra** · 10-10-2002, 12:15 PM

Very bad.

It may be different in the USA due to the way you deal with weapons in your country, but here in Belgium, if someone is caught playing with this kind of marker (or simply witnessed by someone influent), it could be the end of the paintball as we know it here.

Too many poeples are against paintball here

.

I can fully understand the fun of playing with this kind of marker in a big scenario (I would like to buy a custom MG42 one day

), but it's not (yet) a good idea to show this to the public.
There's also big issues of safety. There's a reason why most of the air soft guns are in bright colors (at least here).

@++

**hitech** · 10-10-2002, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by Bulldog
I think it's a bad idea, if I saw someone carring that gun down the street, he wouldn't have long before he had my gun aimed at him, and not much longer before he got shot.

While I agree that making paintball markers look like firearms is a bad idea, I for one sure hope you aren't a cop, and I'll leave it at that.

**Shirow** · 10-10-2002, 12:34 PM

I think it's a bad idea. If I want to go shoot real people with real guns, I'll become a serial killer.

**ogre55** · 10-10-2002, 12:42 PM

Story time

On the one hand, I agree with RamboPreacher, there is a place for these types of markers for the scenerio/military crowd. However if you think people will not carry their markers out in the open, even if they look like real fireams, let me relay a story.

This is not personal expereince but something I heard a long time ago. The incident supposedly happened in Brooklyn, New York, in the late 80s. For all I know it could be urban legend, but people have done dumber things (think of the last time you saw someone take their goggles off in the middle of a game when they were told not to at least 5 times), so I can easily see this happening.

Anyway, on to the show.

Marine Park is a fairly large sprawling park in the middle of Brooklyn. It is surrounded by stores and private homes.

Some bunch of numbnuts were playing paintball in the park after dark. The markers they were using looked very similiar to an M-16/CAR-15 with stock, peep site/carry handle in back and the front triangle site. One of these geniuses decided that he was hungry/thirsty/bored and went across the street to a convenience store in order to purchase something. He had full camo on with the marker slung over his shoulder. When he walked out of the store, there where a number of New York Cities finest, guns drawn and pointed at our friend, the idiot.

Have I mentioned this guy was not very bright.

Anyway, after having his life flash before his eyes and finding out what it feels like to be incontinent, he was arrested.

Again, this could very well be urban legend, but I know that the marker in question did exist, I saw some pictures of one on a very old magazine cover, and I can easily see someone being that stupid.

In todays much more tense enviroment, I can easily see someone carrying one of the Armotech markers out in the open, get shot.

Ogre

Makers looking like real guns? good/bad??

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