Makers looking like real guns? good/bad??

[MinimagRockin']

I'm with you guys! Also I think alot of those realistic looking paintguns are used for training for police, military, etc...so really they are probably doing just as much "good" as "bad."

PS- What's wrong with a realistic paintball gun anyway? Real guns are legal in the old US of A (as they should be) right? So why is it so crazy to have "fake" guns that look like real ones? A kid could be shot by the police screwing around with a spyder or capgun just as easily as he could be with a replica m16 or the like.

[Rancid Milk]

I am not into the whole markers looking like guns thing. Isn't that the reason that some people criticize paintball in the first place?

[loren]

I voted no on the pole, but i am a in between really. It doesn't hurt the sport but it can. Let's say some stupid *** dumb sh** decides to beat the crap out of some one and then shoot them in the eyes or just unloads on somebody for know reason with a paintball marker and a ball hits the victim in the eye, badly injuring or possibly kiling the person (let's face it, it can happen take for example the sniper at washington, by the way is a sick ****). Now this person goes on trial and paintball gets known as a violent sport people showcasing this markers and saying that this these is the kinda stuff that paintball is. Militistic, third war, red neckin rampage that only phycotic murders play. In this sense it is bad.

But on the other hand there are the poeple who like to play miltary style this gets them more of the feel. There are sceniro junkies who go all out on uniforms and special affects of the markers to make it fun for everone. There are many more easly thinkable more reasons why it is good along these lines. So in this sense yes it is good.

So it is kinda hard to say.

Just my 2 cents, I am not askin for any change.

[Duke Henry]

Cledford, EmagGuy, well said.

When you hear about the incidents with stupid punks shooting their guns into pedestrians, and others - what guns are they using?

I hate to get back to the "motto", so I will use my own little variant: Guns don't ruin the potential of the sport, stupid people with guns do.

[Automaggin2]

I dont like it....AT ALL. A local field owner (so i hear from my local store) got arrested because he had his tippman 98 on his passenger seat when he got pulled over. the officer drew his gun and tackled him to the ground. i know, you are supposed to have your guns stored away while driving, but if it were something like a cocker i think it would have been more noticable that it was a paintball gun

[RRfireblade]

I really hate these discusions because no one ever changes there opinions,but here goes nothing.

#1 - Anyone who thinks almost ANY paint gun doesn't look like a real gun from a distance in any place other than it's intended environment is SADLY MISTAKEN!Kids have been shot carrying toys painted orange under the right/wrong conditions.

#2 - Any one who carries ANY device capable of shooting a projectile out in the open and exposed to innocent bystanders should lose all privliges of ownership and be subject to hefty fines to either said person or his/her guardians.

#3 - Those that think scenerio guns have there place and purpose but are against them anyway,Where do you play with YOUR paint gun other than at a paintball field?

#4 - To any COMPLETE IDIOT who would point a gun at someone on the street who may or may not APPEAR to have a firearm should never be allowed to own a firearm in the first place and is a TOTAL embarressment and a disgrace to all of us gun owners who fight tooth and nail to keep our rights of ownership dispite people like you killing innocent people and giving "ammo" to those who oppose private ownership of firearms.By the way,those are the same people trying to end paintball as well so thank you again butt head!

#5 - I never thought any Paintballers would ever be in favor of removing any paint guns based on "appearance" which supports the majority of opponents of paintball who's beliefs are based on speculation of violence and many other misconceptions instead of facts and good old truth.As far as I'm concerned,either your with us or against us.Where do you draw the line on looks? Long barrels? foregrips? The color black? If your not carefull you will have your self out of a wonderful sport.Crime bill of the 90's ring a bell? All guns banned where based primarily on looks and physical dimesions.Any thing they thought looked like an "ASSAULT" gun was banned.Assault=carbine rifles,exposed magazines(AKA-fore grips),barrel shrouds(AKA-ported muzzels) and any thing looking "military".What's that have to do with anything? Most people are shot with dime store handguns and other easy to come by guns,not a $1200+ AR-15.

Anyway,just my 2 or maybe 5 cents worth.We as a lover of this game should stay united in our support of paintball and instead of wasted energy on negative issues,continue to promote the positives when ever possible.There are plenty who would all ready like to ban paintball guns let's not show them any desent among the ranks.

Jay.

Phew,that was way to long.

How 'bout banning long winded posts! LOL.

[AutomagRT1483]

Personally, i think markers that resemble real gun look awesome! Especially the one on rustyspaintballgear.com.
Too bad they cost to damn much. But the only draw back with them is that people that shun this great sport of paintball will try everything to stop it if they saw markers that resembled real guns. Thats too bad, that those kind of people have a mind set like that. Oh well. As for me,I'd never get one just because I love my RT Pro too damn much!!!

[kemikos]

Originally posted by AutomagRT1483
As for me,I'd never get one just because I love my RT Pro too damn much!!!

Then have it converted into one of these!

http://www.extremesportsandhobbies.com/mg42.html

http://www.extremesportsandhobbies.com/m14.html

http://www.extremesportsandhobbies.com/thompson.html

They are all built around our favorite marker (the ones in the pictures are 'Mags, but RT's can be converted just as easily).

Take a look at my sig to see where I stand on the issue...

Look, cledford's got the only point that really matters here. YOU can tell the difference between a pink E-mag and a Tippmann A-5. If you think that anyone on the outside of the paintball world will, you're sorely mistaken. Especially in a stressful situation such as a police officer who may or may not have seen a gun in someone's hands might find him(her)self in.

In the 80's, a college student was shot by a police officer because he was running around with a Lazer Tag gun. The brightly colored plastic gun looked nothing at all like a real gun, but when the kid thought the officer was one of the players and pointed it at him, that was the end of it.

Do you really think your Automag looks less like a gun than that Lazer Tag gun did? How about the woman here in Illinois that was shot because the police officer mistook her cell phone for a gun?

The point is, anyone who carries around their paintball gun in the open is asking for trouble no matter what it looks like (and that's totally ignoring the safety issue... you can't accidentally fire a marker that's in a case).

I've had police officers ask me about my "lookalike" paintball gun. Most of them think it's the coolest thing... primarily because they never see it laying on the backseat of my car, for example.

I play primarily rec and scenario ball, and I've had too many people come up to me for a look at my gun and say "that's cool" for me to think that I'm hurting the "image" of the sport in any way. In fact, at a scenario game at CPX this year, my gun won the "coolest custom gun" contest. The second place marker was an absolutely gorgeous Angel. Apparently all the people who voted for my gun didn't think it was bad for paintball...

And on the subject of impacting the sport: "realistic" paintball guns are expensive. Those of us who like them spend a lot of money on paintball. Every dollar we spend supports paintball just as much as the dollars spent by those of you who live for speedball and tournaments. And that money is really the only support that will keep our sport alive... in all its forms.

Oh, and TRIAD... you said "buy it for practicality, not for looks." Your 'Mag is real nice... but is a totally chrome gun more practical than a grey/black one? How about that cool-looking foregrip and the custom rail? Do they work that much better than the standard ones, or are they mainly for looks? :)

Well, that's my 2 cents (and then some). We've been over this too many times for me to think anyone will change their minds, but maybe someone who hasn't already made up their mind will have something to think about.

Kenn Mikos

[zach rumchak]

wow i like it but i personally dont think i would buy it for 1200 dollars i would rather have a sfl cocker or emag

[AutomagRT1483]

So i can get my RT Pro to look like that then?? Hmmm, Interesting, Very Interesting.