I hate Twist-Lock, how about you?

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  • WARPED1
    I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
    • Nov 2001
    • 7458

    #16
    I also do not like the twist lock design.
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    • hitech
      Not a shedder of vortices
      • Nov 2001
      • 4775

      #17
      Originally posted by JEDI
      I have never seen a barrel thread strip. I've seen people carelessly cross thread them, but not strip. Maybe with careless misuse.
      Once you cross thread it, striping a thread is the next step. I've heard many people complain about stripped barrels, I believe Tom was one of them.

      Originally posted by JEDI
      I'm not arguing that cocker threads specifically are better than other threads, just that threaded barrels in general are better than twist lock.
      Why? I can't think of a reason that threaded barrels are inherently better than the twist lock.

      Originally posted by JEDI
      And the fact that more people want/like it better does say something.
      Yup, to me it says that it is NOT the best. It has been my experience that the most popular is NOT the best. Betamax and Windows come to mind.

      Originally posted by JEDI
      You say that you've never seen a problem with twist lock. How about the fact that no one wants to make twist lock barrels any more?
      Companies not wanting to make twist lock barrels has NOTHING to do with how well the twist lock works.

      Originally posted by JEDI
      How about the fact that most twist lock barrels weigh/cost more than threaded barrels.
      Because the cost more they are inferior? What does that say about high end markers (Angels, CnC Extreems, etc)?

      Originally posted by JEDI
      How many guns do you own?
      I own four markers, why?

      Originally posted by JEDI
      If you ever change your mag to a center feed, or you ever get another gun, tell me how annoying it is to get new barrels! I now own a HL Boomstick, a center feed Boomstick, and a Cocker Boomstick.
      I don't purchase markers very often. Since 1986 I have purchased four. I have no use for center feed, however "they" make twist locks that work for power feed and center feed I believe. I would expect to purchase new barrels if I purchased a new marker. I don't want a lot of expensive barrels so it isn't an issue. My $25 barrel shoots as well as ANY barrel I have seen.


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      • SyntaxError
        OSK #3
        • Sep 2001
        • 621

        #18
        Actually I complain about this all the time, so I'd like to contribute too

        Twist lock barrels are the devil! I hate the gouges that the stupid twist lock left in my barrels, especially when my friend's new Cocker barrel (which we got at the same time) looks brand new. My twist lock has jammed, causing me to take the entire marker apart, and has numerous times proved to be less reliable than a threaded barrel system.

        Now, in a marker such as the Automag line that is based on simplicity, why complicate the barrel system? The twist lock is nice when it works, but more often than not I find myself cursing it because of: A)the $10 it costs to buy a mag barrel due to the twistlock design B)the extra, unnecessary weight it adds C)the fact that the twistlock NEVER seems to work when I need it to, and D)the fact that the stupid twistlock pin scratched my nice new All-American.

        I can understand how in theory the twist lock design is nice, however in actuality it has been a problem with me since day one, what with adjusting the tension and all, scratching my barrels, and giving a higher cost to the barrels themselves. I realized that when I owned my Autococker, the screw in barrel was a nice feature.
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        • PolishSausage
          Liberals are stupid
          • Oct 2002
          • 591

          #19
          My All American is nice and shiny...

          Have you ever typed a whole paragraph, and then just said "that's stupid", and deleted it? Yeah, that just happened here...

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          • paint magnet
            Member # 10,261
            • Dec 2001
            • 2488

            #20
            It has it's pros and cons. The only thing I don't like about it is that when you take off the barrel, there's nothing to stop the balls from rolling out.
            My feedback

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            • sneakyhacker420
              AO's Uber Green Guru
              • Aug 2002
              • 1247

              #21
              I LOVE THE TWIST LOCK!!! (no i'm not the poop-on-stick lover)

              even if the twist lock jams (just gotta oil the twist lock pin), i still love it

              in the heat of battle, i can take it out and squeege it so easily compared to a threaded barrel, it is also easier to remove when you have oily paint-covered hands from crawling in the snake

              they cost a bit more than threaded barrels, but its damn well worth it
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              • K-villeplayer
                Don Schiappa
                • Dec 2001
                • 253

                #22
                SyntaxError: what exactly do you mean by Jammed. How did it happen (what went wrong). I've never had this problem and was just wondering what might have caused it or what not.

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                • BajaBoy
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 2158

                  #23
                  im not reading what everyone said but heres what i have to say. The more i use it the more i love it. Easy to clean, very quick to take off the barrel. love the ball detenit (sp). i really do love it
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                  • TippmannMan
                    Inactive
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 378

                    #24
                    against

                    ive written a couple of posts on this before. but my main point is i have had nothing but bad experience and the quickness it takes to remove a twist lock as opposed to a threaded barrel is just over rated. im not gonna be pulling out my barrel while running or diving into a bunker. when i do take out the barrel (which is rare thanks to the level 10 :)) i find cover and do it then.

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                    • WARPED1
                      I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 7458

                      #25
                      I been playing 13 years and have never taken a barrel off during a game.Except of course the few 24 hour scenario games I've been too.My point?None.:)
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                      • SprayingMango
                        i cant wait to blog this
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 4557

                        #26
                        Twist lock is awsome. Just my $.02 I dont see why people hate it.

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                        • shartley
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                          • Mar 2001
                          • 9169

                          #27

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                          • SyntaxError
                            OSK #3
                            • Sep 2001
                            • 621

                            #28
                            Originally posted by K-villeplayer
                            SyntaxError: what exactly do you mean by Jammed. How did it happen (what went wrong). I've never had this problem and was just wondering what might have caused it or what not.
                            By jammed I mean the twist lock refused to move up and down. I had to exchange body rails to make sure the twist lock could move. Any of the DC guys there can tell you, I had to take the entire gun apart to remove the barrel. I ended up replacing the entire assembly, it just stopped moving.

                            And for once I agree with Shartley, they should all have the same threads, but that'll never happen unfortunately.
                            OSK


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                            • rx2
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                              • Mar 2002
                              • 496

                              #29
                              Upon reading this, the "Diff'rent Strokes" theme song comes to mind. Well, parts of it.
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                              • SyntaxError
                                OSK #3
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 621

                                #30
                                lol

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