X-VALVE SPEED TEST = AVERAGE 32.7 CPS! (pic and sound)

[Mrmacdude]

im sorry, but i tried to read the whole thread and my brain kept going to sleep. so, my question is:
how did you get the trigger to bounce like that? (not full auto vid)

id be happy if someone explained it, or if someone pointed to a post showing how.

[Frank (the spank)]

He's sweet spotting it.

RT, high output pressure and the right spot and finger pressure on the trigger and it will bounce.

[coolcatpete]

that is cool i may try it but only under supervision of my local pb store owner. How do you sweet spot like that.

[Mrmacdude]

Originally posted by Frank (the spank)
He's sweet spotting it.

RT, high output pressure and the right spot and finger pressure on the trigger and it will bounce.

yea i know what sweet spotting is, but on my friends, i cant do it... there wasnt/isnt enough pressure pushin back.

So... where do we set the output pressure? in the gun, or on the tank?? does it lower effiency? is it bad for the gun??

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by Mrmacdude

So... where do we set the output pressure? in the gun, or on the tank?? does it lower effiency? is it bad for the gun??

You set the output pressure of the tank (adjustable, not screw-in) going into the RT valve.

Higher pressure = more reactivity

There exists a balance "sweet spot" point where the relationship between the trigger reset pressure and the force required to fire the marker is optimized to the allow you to shot simulated full-auto.

All you have to do it apply constant pressure on the trigger and it will bounce like crazy.

It allows you to keep up with other cheater guns (bounce triggers) out there like the Timmy, E-Blade and Matrix.

Hahaha!

Just kidding!

[Mrmacdude]

ok, so is it bad for the gun?
does it lower effieciency?
obviously, gas runs out faster, but does each shot use more gas?

[TheJester]

well seeing that the cat was already let out of the bag, it's done by romving an o-ring from the on/off...may i ask which o-ring it is?

[BlackVCG]

Here's Alabamaman walking his E-Mag. We didn't have much paint left, so he only does it for a short burst. No idea what max ROF he hits. My guess would be about 11-12.

http://www.automags.org/~BlackVCG/Scott_HaloB.wmv

Here's my E-Mag running at FA just for fun. I believe it's set at about 23 and I didn't want to outshoot the HALO, so I shot in bursts.

http://www.automags.org/~BlackVCG/E-Mag_FA.wmv

You think you could analyze the sound files of these videos and give us a ROF analysis Jack&Coke?

[Jack & Coke]

Thanks BlackVCG!

I was just about to crash for the night...

I'll have to wait until Friday night after work before I can do a ROF Analysis.

Thanks again for posting.

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by BlackVCG
Here's Alabamaman walking his E-Mag. We didn't have much paint left, so he only does it for a short burst. No idea what max ROF he hits. My guess would be about 11-12.

http://www.automags.org/~BlackVCG/Scott_HaloB.wmv

Here's my E-Mag running at FA just for fun. I believe it's set at about 23 and I didn't want to outshoot the HALO, so I shot in bursts.

http://www.automags.org/~BlackVCG/E-Mag_FA.wmv

You think you could analyze the sound files of these videos and give us a ROF analysis Jack&Coke?

Here you go!

BlackVCG, your EMAG is AWESOME!

[AlabamaMan]

13.7 bps average, i can live with that.

[oldsoldier]

Well, I am impressed by all the work you guys did with this. 32cps in a mech gun is amazing...I wanna see another company do that!!
Anyway, good job all.

[Jack & Coke]

The one thing that I noticed was the degree of difficulty Scott had while trying to maintain a "trigger walking" rythm.

His cadence was very inconsistant and it really looked as tough he was laboring and working extra hard to attain any type of speed while walk his fingers.

He even had to jut his wrist out while walking. This wrist position is really impractical as you'll be expossed too much.

Maybe it's just his technique?

The "degree of difficulty" does indeed look higher compared to the Timmy and Matrix as far as "walking the trigger" is concerned...

Maybe this has to do with the overall "larger" mass of the EMAG trigger (including magnets)?

[AlabamaMan]

One reason for the trouble i had walking it was the fact that i had set it up the night before, and i haven't really had a chance to get used to it yet. That was only like the third hopper i had put through it.

I hope to have some nice practice in a tourny this weekend.

[Jack & Coke]

Whew! thanks for the explanation and details...