98's shoot faster than a mag?

[GhillieGuy]

Some people at pbnation are saying that tippy 98's are faster than mags. Check out the link... http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...83#post1934983

[shartley]

[BajaBoy]

heh i put my .02 $ in

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

Originally posted by shartley

Well actually Mr. Hartley, he made that comment on reference to why the fields rent out impulses, angels, ect.

In this case i really think it's the user. I knew someone that could shoot pretty fast with a stock single trigger on his model 98. I think he might have been able to shoot faster than i oculd on my 2x frame mag. It was close, he just couldn't shoot mags for anything. Both guns could keep up with the user. I think it's just wheter the user could keep up with the gun.

[maglover52]

maybe if you are using a broken mag.

[GhillieGuy]

Like shartly said, tipmans are excelent rental guns becouse they are unbreakeable(so is a mag but it still has more maintenance) but why would somewone say that they are better than mags? Well i guess everyone has their own opinion and i will recpect that, and it is very true that somewone could shoot faster with a tippy, they might just be more used to it... I think

[Lopy-slopy]

Some of them are idiots. Mags are better than tippy's plain ans simple. One guy said that tippy's are good beause team timppman effect uses them. That makes no scence. They have to use them no matter how bad they are becuase tippman sponsors them. Most of their guns are upgraded so much, ie ebolt, RT, HPA conversion(in other words made into like $2000 guns) and they use A5's mostly. I know there are some teams that don't use their sponsors guns, but I can't see why the company still pays them. Probably just to have them ware their jerseys. It's just a matter of pride. People love their guns and think theirs is the best. their are talon owners groups and they think that they have great markers! LOL.

[Surreal]

Originally posted by Lopy-slopy
That makes no scence.

...neither does that

[Crimson_Turkey]

My A-5 is definitly tourney grade. With a 10" ultralite, e-grip, intruder x-chamber (it sure is long now, huh?) and the ungodly cyclone feed, it kicks butt. I'd say the cyclone is better than a HALO B. The thing feeds a little above 20bps and has no batteries.

As for the 98, with an e-bolt it can out shoot ALOT of guns. I will take an e-bolt 98 over a lot of popular electros. The thing is sexy.

[GhillieGuy]

I'd say the cyclone is better than a HALO B. The thing feeds a little above 20bps and has no batteries.

Yeah, like that is even close to being true...
Why would you spend that much cash on a tippy?

[circus5]

respect the tippy

A little respect here. First off, I shoot a mag, always have, always will. But you have to respect the tippman m98. the gun is incredible for its price. I can, and have, shot a m98 just as fast as a standard mag. With the m98 reactive trigger installed and cranked up, NOTHING can compare to that rof with so much consistency. I can also rock an e98 just as fast as an angel.
Another point, tippmans customer service is great, i mean rivaling AGD great. when the 98 first came out and went to feilds it didnt have all the bugs worked out, in fact they broke left and right. the feild i now work for got one of the first batches, and they were really bad. tippman said, ok, we'll send someone to take care of it. A few days later a truck rolls up, they TOOK the old (new) guns and SWAPPED THEM for new ones from the factory. And to this day tippman often fixes guns sent to them by customers for free, even if the warranty is expired,
But what tippman has done id kind of scary. Now any 12yr old can have a crazy rof, without convincing mommy to buy him an angel or the like. This has really increased the number of kids with more gun than they know how to use. i really hate being shot in the back by the kid on my own team, way in the back, with a flatline and rt trigger. 15 rds a sec is not pleasant on the back of your head....

[shartley]

Re: respect the tippy

Originally posted by TheBigRaguPB4L


Well actually Mr. Hartley, he made that comment on reference to why the fields rent out impulses, angels, ect.

I stand corrected. I must have just skimmed over that. Sorry.

Originally posted by Crimson_Turkey
My A-5 is definitly tourney grade. With a 10" ultralite, e-grip, intruder x-chamber (it sure is long now, huh?) and the ungodly cyclone feed, it kicks butt. I'd say the cyclone is better than a HALO B. The thing feeds a little above 20bps and has no batteries.

As for the 98, with an e-bolt it can out shoot ALOT of guns. I will take an e-bolt 98 over a lot of popular electros. The thing is sexy.

The argument was bone stock. And it was not the A-5 either. Please stay on topic.

Originally posted by circus5
A little respect here. First off, I shoot a mag, always have, always will. But you have to respect the tippman m98. the gun is incredible for its price. I can, and have, shot a m98 just as fast as a standard mag. With the m98 reactive trigger installed and cranked up, NOTHING can compare to that rof with so much consistency. I can also rock an e98 just as fast as an angel.
Another point, tippmans customer service is great, i mean rivaling AGD great. when the 98 first came out and went to feilds it didnt have all the bugs worked out, in fact they broke left and right. the feild i now work for got one of the first batches, and they were really bad. tippman said, ok, we'll send someone to take care of it. A few days later a truck rolls up, they TOOK the old (new) guns and SWAPPED THEM for new ones from the factory. And to this day tippman often fixes guns sent to them by customers for free, even if the warranty is expired,
But what tippman has done id kind of scary. Now any 12yr old can have a crazy rof, without convincing mommy to buy him an angel or the like. This has really increased the number of kids with more gun than they know how to use. i really hate being shot in the back by the kid on my own team, way in the back, with a flatline and rt trigger. 15 rds a sec is not pleasant on the back of your head....

[GhillieGuy]

Another point, i too respect the spyder. Thats what we all started out with in our famly and the things are pretty durable. Iv'e had an old spyder compact for 0ver 5 years or so and it still works fine.
Ok, back to topic i do have respect for tippys just becouse they've been around for a long time and like comewone mensioned, there service is great. And they might shoot faster than a mag with an rt. But if you would compare it to that than you'll have to compare it to an rt mag which in my opinion is faster.

[JAM]

I have always liked tippmanns... my first semi was a 68 Special- that was an AWESOME gun. from there I moved to a ProAM and that was an awesome gun too. I can only assume that the newer models are even better. But, then I got a mag and haven't looked back. Now, to the issue of triggers- I've always felt that mag triggers were a little sloppy- they need a light spring or something to hold them against the trigger rod- tippmanns have always had pretty stiff return springs which give the impression of a trigger that has less "slop". I have always wished for someting to steady a mag trigger- even on the intelliframe, that's why i love the trigger on an EMag.
As for quality/reliability/value... well, it's subjective, but think about it, you could buy 3 tippmann 98's for the cost of a decent mag... Tom's said it before- the tippmann is probably the best gun for the money out there.
And they can really shoot well. Does it suck to get shot out by a 12 year old with a $125 gun? Yes, and it's embarrassing too because I'm a 27 year old with a $1000 gun. But, what are we gonna do? well-shooting cheaper guns are very good for the sport. I just don't think we should put down other guns to save face- I will never sell my guns and get a spyder, but that's partly 'cause I like the technology and partly 'cause i have bought into the hype. Oh well, enough rambling, to each their own.
If some guy wants to talk about how his splatmaster could outshoot my angel, well, on a certain day maybe he is right, or at least he has the right to believe he's correct. just play and have fun.

[JAM]

oh, and Shartley, what are doing up and typing at 5:30 in the morn?