Why do people say that close bolt is more accurate

[m-98]

Originally posted by jewie27


Wrong! Markers set to the same velocity shoot the same distance. (except for Flatlines)

It also doesn't matter which is more accurate because either way i'll bunker you at point blank with 10 year old house paint. *Laughing*

I believe that he was being sarcastic.

[Jack & Coke]

I'm curious, for those using the firearms analogies, please define:

"open bolt" and "closed bolt"

operation

...and please give examples of which guns are "open bolt" guns.

thanks

[tony3]

Originally posted by jaylock33
Ignorance! The only thing that matters is ball to barrel match.

That statement was almost as ignorant as saying that closed bolt is more accurate

[Ginjiroku]

cockers are consistant and they are accurate, people think it it because they are closed bolt but they're wrong. Any consistant marker with a good paint and barrel match will be accurate.

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by Jack & Coke
I'm curious, for those using the firearms analogies, please define:

"open bolt" and "closed bolt"

operation

...and please give examples of which guns are "open bolt" guns.

thanks

It's typically reserved for full auto fire arms,like the M-60 for example,which is also a gas operated mechanism.

Jay.

[melster]

Originally posted by RRfireblade
https://www.pbreview.com/forums/show...hreadid=148787

Perfect example of stupidity in motion.

Jay.

'course this was after Dasbalddog editted out much of his demencia.

LOL...that DasBaldDog got owned. What a fruitcake.

You can tell he's got an inflated opinion of himself...his sig, which is like 200 words long, is pretty much just about bragging about himself.

He doesn't seem to appreciate that there is a diminishing point of returns when it comes to barrel length. After a certain distance, the propellant gas ceases to expand and all the barrel does is increase the decelleration of the projectile.

Gotta love how condescending he comes off too.

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by RRfireblade


It's typically reserved for full auto fire arms,like the M-60 for example,which is also a gas operated mechanism.

Jay.

Please be more specific in defining "open bolt" operation (regards to firewarms).

Thanks

[melster]

Open Bolt:
"A firing system for automatic and semi-automatic firearms where the bolt remains in the rearward position after each cartridge is fired or when firing is stopped. The firing pin is generally in a fixed position in the bolt. This system allows for faster cooling of the action. This system works in a manner exactly opposite to tht of the closed bolt system familiar to most shooters."

An example of an open bolt firearm would be the MAC-10

[RRfireblade]

Pretty similar to paintguns.

Open bolt refers to the position of the bolt priot to firing.

"Typically",an open bolt gun starts with the bolt back and when fired strips the round,chambers it and then fires it and recocks.The firing pin is usually a fixed part of the bolt and the forward action of the bolt acts upon the case igniting the primer.Usually done so for simplicity and more potential cooling of the chamber/barrel.

Where as a "typical" closed bolt gun has the bolt closed while cocked and is fired using a "hammered" movable firing pin,recocks and rechambers the next round ready to fire.

"Basically"

Jay.

Or what the copy and paste guy before me posted.

[Jack & Coke]

Thanks

[melster]

Originally posted by RRfireblade

Or what the copy and paste guy before me posted.

Hey now. I enclosed it in quotes and worked really hard on Google to find it.

As has been mentioned though, it is only significantly more accurate on the first shot if in high rof mode. This is why the H&K MP-5 is so popular with special forces units. If you'll read up on it, its defining feature is it's "first shot accuracy." I believe it is one of only a few (if any) submachine guns that fire from the closed bolt.

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by melster


Hey now. I enclosed it in quotes and worked really hard on Google to find it.

I believe it is one of only a few (if any) submachine guns that fire from the closed bolt.

No hard feelings.

FYI, keep in mind,they all FIRE from a closed bolt either way.

Jay.

[Jerhew]

geez who dug this fossil up?

you mean people are still arguing about this? pfft

[trains are bad]

This is the way I always try to debunk the myth:

All markers fire from a closed bolt. The only difference is how long the bolt has been closed when the pb is fired (aired?).

Legend has it that, firing 100 balls at high bps will result in tighter shot patterns than slow bps (assuming that the reg keeps up). Reason being, the vacuum created by ball in front sucks in the ball behind it. Kinda like drafting in Nascar.

Realize, that for the paintballs to be one foot apart, which I think is still too far for drafting too ocur, you'd have to be firing at 300bps.

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by Jerhew
geez who dug this fossil up?

you mean people are still arguing about this? pfft

Actually we were talking about full auto firearms for a little while.