Why do people say that close bolt is more accurate

[melster]

The only reason I can think of why such a high rate of fire would have a tighter grouping is because the rounds are firing so close together that recoil isn't a factor.

That's why the military was developing that caseless ammunition rifle that fired three round bursts at an insane ROF.

[Ginjiroku]

h&k made a prototype called the g-11 http://www.hkpro.com/g11.htm
2000 rounds per minute and it has accuracy unlike the 1600 rpm m-11

[Jerhew]

Originally posted by RRfireblade


Actually we were talking about full auto firearms for a little while.

i just meant the thread in general...
it's like 6 months old...
i didnt even remember replying in it..

[SpecialBlend2786]

http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/paintguns/balistic/closedopen.shtml

i dunno if this was already brought up or not.

[Pand0ra]

Originally posted by melster

That's why the military was developing that caseless ammunition rifle that fired three round bursts at an insane ROF.

That's a metalstorm gun http://www.metalstorm.com. Up to 1,000,000 shots/s in some configurations with multibarrels. Firing 40mm grenades at 15000rpm is not bad either...

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[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by Jerhew


i just meant the thread in general...
it's like 6 months old...
i didnt even remember replying in it..

I know,alot of these seem to be popping up lately for some reason.

Me either.

[mag-hatter]

Originally posted by jaylock33
Ignorance! The only thing that matters is ball to barrel match.

yeah, like how a pile of crap rental with a good paint/barrel match would be just as good as any high end gun huh?

[melster]

Originally posted by Pand0ra


That's a metalstorm gun http://www.metalstorm.com. Up to 1,000,000 shots/s in some configurations with multibarrels. Firing 40mm grenades at 15000rpm is not bad either...

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Actually, Ginjiroku linked the one I was talking about, the G-11.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as42-e.htm

"when firing the three-round bursts, second and third cartridges are feed and fired as soon as the chamber is ready for it, and third bullet leaves the barrel PRIOR to the moment when the housing becomes to its rearward position. This results in wery high rate of fire with three-shots bursts - ca. 2000 rounds per minute. Also, this results in that the actual recoil affects the rifle AFTER the last bullet in the burst is fired."

It's a russian website, so forgive the typos.

[DeeEight]

Because Bud needed some reason to justify the pricetag on autocockers compared to automags, to get folks to buy his more complicated and glorified pumps at a time when a better and simpler design was available. So like a long line of designers making false claims, bud said it was more accurate and tens of thousand of cocker owners believed him.

In reality of guns in general, a closed-bolt setup keeps outside contaminents out of the innards of the gun when its firing, and for a single-shot application, having the majority of the mass NOT moving forwards to chamber and fire the shot will affect your aim less. But who except pump players in paintball fires only a single shot at once?! No tourney player that's for sure. And most weekend rec-ballers dump paint just as eagerly as they can.

[jewie27]

Who cares if it's open, closed, or halfway open/closed. The only thing that matters is..............

[dansim]

Originally posted by jewie27
Who cares if it's open, closed, or halfway open/closed. The only thing that matters is..............

one more time and i swear imm gonna send an evil monkey to stab you in the brain with a q-tip