It's funny Dye got ripped off at IAO

[Johnny_Reb]

Would it be funny if me,FalconGuy, and Jack & Coke stole $10,000 from you? What happened to DYE isnt funny at all.

nippinouts right, while child labor isnt right their at least making money to feed themselves. Its not like their handling bombs, just making apparel, so theirs no risk at all. Why dont you ask the ppl who work for DYE in China if their glad their working their? See what they say.

EDIT:sorry cphilip we were typing at the same time, if you dont like my post feel free to delete it.

[c sherer]

two wrongs don't make a right.
And no, I am 100% NOT a bleeding heart liberal hippie. Far from it. Try a registered conservative republican.

Stealing from Dye was a wrong. And guess what - someone (overseas labor) will have to make more of that apparrel to replace it and then everyone will have to pay slightly more for those products because some fool stole it all in the first place which jacks up the prices so Dye can maintain their business.

And another thing that made me go hmmm....

ok, so yeah, a lot of companies make stuff in china where labor is cheap. Now, lets look at this from an economic standpoint and NOT a moral one.
Someone has a job making shoes (or jerseys) for 25 cents a day. We americans say Whoa! that's nuts! They are virtually slaves! That is viewing things from OUR perspective. Maybe, just maybe, in china (or whereever) a steady job paying 25 cents a day is pretty good income. Not everyplace has the same economy or cost of living. So maybe these people making these products are HAPPY to be making 25 cents a day. Those people go home with their 25 cents to their familys and are able to buy food, clothing, shelter, and maybe have a little left over. Thats a lot better than living in a box in an overcrowded gutter somewhere doing your laundry in a puddle. Its also better than depending on some government handout or program to feed/clothe your family because then, you really are a lot closer to slavery if you think about it.

Now, don't go thinking I am for people living under an oppressive government - I'm not. I wish everyone could experience the wonderful life and conditions we have here in the states. I am simply presenting a different way to look at things and to point out that there are myriad other factors that need to be considered before immediately jumping to conclusions that Nike or Dye is a big bad evil company that cares nothing for people.
Is china oppressive? Sure. Are these people all FORCED to work in these jobs? I suspect not. Are they paid much less than we are here in the states? Sure. Why? Economics - both here and over there.

Does boycotting Dye (or whoever) solve the issue? Nope. That will only waste your time because then you are spending all your time worrying about who makes what and where and if you should buy it or not. Because I have news for you - there are a whole lotta things made in cheap overseas locations and you'd likely not buy much of anything anymore.
You want to make a difference? Get an interest in POLITICS. Learn who your representatives are and vote for people who you believe will work toward similar goals and beliefs that you have. Stupid, useless idea you say? Well, believe that if you wish. In the meantime I will pay attention to issues and vote for someone who I feel CAN make a difference in the world.

CoSh

[-=Squid=-]

Mabe you will change your attitude towards dye when you can afford to use there stuff

[c sherer]

oops, sorry, cphilip. was writing when you posted on politics.

Retract soapbox now...
CoSh

[GT]

I like dye stuff, however not a big fan of thier guns, kinda pricey for what they are.

I think you just ruined your credibility on AO. Sad man, very sad. The truly funny part is that 10k is like 100 boomers. pffft they probally sold that many durring IAO, not to mention all thier other crap they sell.

Philip close this thread before it gets ugly.

[Animal Mother]

Originally posted by cphilip
I don't think its funny at all. And every major event I go to there is some kind of theft. I getting sick of it. I am afraid there are just too many low lifes hanging around paintball. Its time we cleaned em all out. And making fun of it or chearing it is just as bad. Sober up Animal and think about what you are saying. Its totaly wrong.

Thats my opinion.

I agree there are many low lifes in paintball, and I would also say many of the low lifes are paintball itself. Companies like Smart Parts, which we all know why they're low lifes and companies like Dye for having all their gear made in China by children. A lot of people attending theses events are low lifes as well and give Paintball an even worse name... Didn't Chris Laysoya bounce 12 shots into the back of someone's head and said "it's part of the game, if you can't take it go play golf" or something of the like..?

I guess laughing in public about theft is in a way encouraging it. But... bad things happen to bad people. This is really just a reply to all the people that felt sorry for Dye.. I don't feel sorry for them at all. If Smart Parts factory was picked up by a twister and no one was hurt but Smart Parts went under would you shed a tear? Only because it was Dye... if AGD got ripped off I'd pass out the torches to the lynch mob.

[Johnny_Reb]

Didn't Chris Laysoya bounce 12 shots into the back of someone's head and said "it's part of the game, if you can't take it go play golf" or something of the like..?

Not again there was a huge thread on this if you search for it.

Animal,buddy, you have to realize that A LOT of things are made in China but just because ppl have products made their doesnt make them lowlifes, ppl in China are glad to have those jobs. While I also believe bad things do happen to bad ppl, DYE isnt bad ppl.YB is a real nice guy and has contributed alot to paintball.

if AGD got ripped off I'd pass out the torches to the lynch mob.

Hehe "Pitchforks distrubted Sir!"

[nippinout]

I have a friend that was Made in China. :o

[Star_Base_CGI]

Well at Dyes prices thats like what 3 packs and 4 belts?

Seriously though you just cant walk off with $10,000 im Belts and pods. They have to be organized. You have to have a van or something to put them in and lookouts to distract people.

Organized crime is big buisiness. Someone who was in the mob, a neighbor told me. The mafia is the most organized buisines in the world.

After reading this Im getting a cheap pack.

[Animal Mother]

Originally posted by c sherer

Who said I wasn't or don't? I am very active. And I never said we should boycott Dye, all I said was it's funny when bad things happen to bad people. I believe two wrongs CAN make a right, it is how the world revolves, I don't base my life on silly cliches. It doesn't matter if making 25 cents is better than nothing.. getting kicked in the teeth is better than being kicked in the pod... I wouldn't want either. I see what you are saying at a lot of it makes sense, but until you see first hand what a sweat shop looks like you can't say the kids are happy. I know I am giving dye a hard time.. maybe more people will put the pressure on them about their work ethics and maybe they can change. After all they are the Nike of paintball.

I work for Apple Computer.. we.. have an "OK" work ethic but we aren't perfect. I took a visit to China and visited the company that manufactures our PCB's (printed circuit boards) to help oversea a rework project to fix an issue... it was not pretty. Watching kids work their fingers to the bone... when I was their age I was watching Transformers and eating fruit roll ups after school.. it was sad, theses kids will never have the chance to be a kid. The only way Apple can compete is to endorse slave labor.. and we already have the most expensive computers. We have the stuff made in China and we assemble it in the USA. At least our factory in Elk Grove does for the PowerMac line, the "cheap" consumer products are all made in China... I understand a lot of companies HAVE to do this.. and I know I am hard on what I say about them. But spreading the word does put the pressure on them to change. Look at what a bad name Cathie Lee got.. she stopped having her products made in sweat shops and donated a large sum of money to relief efforts for children working in sweat shops. The media is their best friend and worst enemy, lol

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
Mabe you will change your attitude towards dye when you can afford to use there stuff

I have Dye tank covers and Dye Ultralights on both my ULE E-Mag and Angel Speed... So yeah.. I can afford their stuff..

[WarBUCKs]

Originally posted by Star_Base_CGI


Seriously though you just cant walk off with $10,000 im Belts and pods. They have to be organized. You have to have a van or something to put them in and lookouts to distract people.

Maybe Dye planned this raid on itself to collect the insurance money. This way, they can off-load some equipment, pretend like they made it again and collect 10k in cash from unsuspecting insurance company. Of course, I doubt that, but I am always good at finding a good conspiracy.

If you need a conspiracy made up, PM me.

[Python14]

I don't think that's funny at all. I like DYE.

[irbodden]

Let them make that cheap crap, as long as a nation has sweatshops and psuedo-slave labor, they won't be getting the education they'd need to compete against the United States. It's an endless cycle, and I don't want to see crap factories in the US.

[crankydan]

[-=Squid=-]

I have Dye tank covers and Dye Ultralights on both my ULE E-Mag and Angel Speed... So yeah.. I can afford their stuff..

Ok, so now you use there products? Trust me, you are just digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole...