A $500 Spyder?!?!

[Animal Mother]

http://www.ravenusa.com/paintball/products/markers/nexion/

Click the "Nexion Features" for more info, it has a msrp of $499.95... for a Spyder.. lol

Then again people do pay $1000 for Intimidators.... heh heh just kidding

[Star_Base_CGI]

Yes everyone knows that its no good unless you pay alot of money for it...

Id buy that...

If I had $500 to burn.

[deathstalker]

MSRP is high, but the price at most stores is in the $300 dollar range. Also, prices of blowbacks tend to drop pretty quickly.

I hope you're not one of those who bags on blowbacks, AM. If so, "Chuff Chuff!"

[Animal Mother]

Blowbacks are great for $100 starter guns, they have a great price/performance ratio. But $500? Hell no...

That is the MSRP, it will probaly sell for around $400.. even $300 is way too much for a Spyder.

[TigerMan]

Yea they're pretty high for an electro. I held one, and didn't like the feel, it kind of felt cheap to me. Now Bad Company is switching to them in hopes that they do well they'll sell alot of them.

[nt2004]

dont pay much attention to MSRP prices. They always tend to be higher than the norm selling prices

[XVFrontplayer]

yeah its all fun and games untill the bolt sticks and the trigger frame outgoes the cylce rate. really ive seen it with alot of hybrids. the frames are to fast for the recharge rate of the gun. i dont think its worth 300-500 dollars. though it is a great gun for 199.

[Animal Mother]

Bad Company really tricks out those Spyders too. That reg and loader cost more than the gun itself, hehehe

[Frontline Newbie]

bob long makes 1000 doller spyders. Of corse they're a lot better, but not worth the money.

[Angry Man]

Well, you could say that Bob Long makes a 1,000 dollar spyder, but then you'd have to say that ICD, WDP, Smart Parts, and basically every company that makes a two tube stacked electro makes a spyder. The Intimidator is no more a spyder than any of those guns. Although the intimidator uses a body similar to a spyder body, its method of operation is completely different and instead the same as an angel, impulse, bushmaster, etc.

And we all have our own opinions, but if a timmy isn't worth 1 grand...nothing is. Other than featherlight vikings and maybe an angel speed, there's not much on the market that's any better.

[Corbet]

animal mother - the guy in that picture is a manager at my local field (toledo indoor paintball). Another employee also plays for bad company.

[beefstew]

if you shoot a spyder and timmy next to each other, tell me it feels the same.

[Xyxyll]

Lol... so many Spyder/Raven haters! I feel hurt!

The Raven neXion WILL drop in price. The AMGs used to be $300. Now they're $200ish, maybe lower. Introduced markers are usually more expensive. As soon as they are out for a while, they lower in price... especially Kingman markers. It is basically another Spyder, but it also has $5000 milling on it... so consider that too.

Without the Spyder, most of us wouldn't be playing. Kingman makes an efficient low-price marker. Works great and can still compete with higher-priced markers. Bad Company tricks their Spyders up... why not? With a good air system (reg), barrel system, loader, and tuning, you have a competitive tournament marker.

There are not many things holding Spyders from strong competition.

The board is capped at 13 (14 for the new E99 Avant and Imagine Select). Three people are working on their own uncapped boards. These are drop-in boards that have a programmable cap. You may have seen Pi's board in Nerobro's Spyder at IAO 2003.

The way Spyders operate, they have the tendency to chop paint. A well tuned Spyder will not chop. If you work with a light main spring or an anti-chop bolt, it will be very difficult. Until now (well, there was one case one year ago), Spyders have not had an ACE upgrade. ACE will soon be an available upgrade for Spyders. (check the Dealers forum for more info on the X-ACE).

Spyders tend to have a harder trigger pull, even with the Eframes. Spyders use microswitches to activate the board. Now, HES is another of my projects coming up. (shh.. don't tell anyone. ).

Recoil has been brought up a few times. The new DHC and ACP strikers nearly eliminate all of the recoil.

Public image... Players everywhere seem to look down on Spyders. Some people do it because of jealousy (SuPrBuGmAn's markers). Other people do it because they had bad experiences. Some people even do it just because they want to feed the stereotype. Regardless, new players are coming into the sport and succumbing to the stereotype... when it's just a STEREOTYPE.

Now, I would love to see Spyders make a stronger presense in tournaments. Spyders are simple, easy to maintain, efficient, incredibly fast, and look good. Why should they be pooped on by a stereotype?

Yes, I do own a Spyder. I also own a very nice Automag. I love both! It is great going to fields and seeing people's reactions. I have had a really little kid who must have only been playing for 6 months sporting a 2k3 cocker and trashing Spyders. I kinda doubt he's ever used one . I loaned my Spyder to my teammate to take to the field one day in case his RT Classic wasn't working (turned out it didn't work...lol). He pulled out the Spyder and people started asking questions as to why someone would put expensive upgrades on a Spyder (If you put them on your higher-priced guns, why not a lower-priced gun?). They saw him sporting the Max-Flow. I wish I was there, but I can tell you that Chris definitely got a few smirks.



I probably didn't make much sense... I was just rambling most of the above.

[f3rr3+]

i love spyders, i wouldnt get an electric one (im kinda against the whole electric look how much paint i can throw it compensates for my small... uh... ego... thing) but i still have my TL plus that i started with (and even tho i am going to sell it cause i need the money, and with a automag classic you dont really need a backup) Kingman should be credited with giving most customers a positive start in paintball unlike some other low end companys **cough** BE **cough**

[Recon by Fire]

I used to have a Spyder AMG. If you trash talk Spyders it only shows how ignorant you are. A BE Blade is just as capable of shooting a paintball to get an elimination as my X-mag. I eliminated plenty of players with high-end markers with my Spyder, much to their surprise. Do players really think holding a $1K+ marker makes you invincible to paint?