A $500 Spyder?!?!

[bornl33t]

this is what I see when I look at that picture

[robdamanii]

Considering I own a nexion...

It is the nicest stock spyder i've handled, and I've been around the block on that one.

The barrel is actually decent, and the feedneck is very solid. The top-cocking is a nice feature, the milling is awesome, but as usual, the reg sucks hard. The angled VA is also pretty nice, but needs to be more high flowing.

Not at all a bad spyder by any matter of means.

[tony3]

Originally posted by TheTramp


So, you are saying that the extensive tests AGD performed are neither "real" or "accurate?" Interesting.

I have not seen any of agd's tests, but I think people read way to far into barrel physics and all that stuff. Just get a good barrel and good paint and have a close match and you should be fine. Or as long as the paint is smaller then the bore of the barrel.

[Xyxyll]

Originally posted by tony3


I have not seen any of agd's tests, but I think people read way to far into barrel physics and all that stuff. Just get a good barrel and good paint and have a close match and you should be fine. Or as long as the paint is smaller then the bore of the barrel.

That sure sounds a lot like paint to bore match. You want as close of a match as you can get. You just contradicted yourself.

Can we close these arguments now?

[Evil1]

This thread is getting dumb now. If anyone were to even spend close to $500 on a spyder it would not be very smart when you could get a new ULE RT Pro for around $400. And you can get an N2 system for pretty cheap these days, so that would definitely be the smart way to go.

[Xyxyll]

Hmm... and now that brings us back to the top. Flaming what the thread is talking about. Also, this is an older thread, and the Raven neXion is nowhere near that price anymore. Online stores always throw Kingman's new guns out there at really high prices for the first month or two.

Now, if you were flaming anybody that puts $500 INTO a Spyder, I would request that you read over this thread. That's already been discussed.

Anyways...

[Gabriel]

Originally posted by AGDFlash
This thread is getting dumb now. If anyone were to even spend close to $500 on a spyder it would not be very smart when you could get a new ULE RT Pro for around $400. And you can get an N2 system for pretty cheap these days, so that would definitely be the smart way to go.

Yeah, the thread was hijacked and we have already discussed the death out of it. Anyway, to you it may be stupid, but to others its not. it's a preference thing, get over it.

And just to clear something up, you dont HAVE to put $400 into a spyder to make it tourney ready. Really, all you have to do is put an e-grip on and if you want a higherROF board. Thats about $150 all together. My prices were with AKALMP internals, SBM 90*, ACE, and other goodies. That is where the $400 came from. That is the setup I am personal working on, so I'm a bit partial Just don't take it as gospel and we'll all be ok.

[Recon by Fire]

So I guess my Spyder AMG with $450 Max-Flow, $200 Freak, and $150 Halo B, was excessive? Maybe not so excessive considering I made another upgrade to that marker set-up and later went to an X-Mag with warpfeed. I just bought my accessories before I bought the other marker

[Gabriel]

lol, not excessive, just not NEEDED. If that's excessive, then I am gonna be screwed with my setup. Got some pics of your guns?

[Evil1]

Sorry to offend. I guess my answers are just biased being that I have never had good luck w/ any other marker other than my AMs, MMs, RTP, or my EMag. I didn't mean to offend.

[Xyxyll]

Originally posted by AGDFlash
Sorry to offend. I guess my answers are just biased being that I have never had good luck w/ any other marker other than my AMs, MMs, RTP, or my EMag. I didn't mean to offend.

I've owned a Classic RT and a X-Valve'd RT Pro. I loved both of them, and I'm sad that I decided to sell them. Now I have a Spyder and a Dark IR3. I wouldn't mind getting an RT Pro again when I find the $ though.

[nerobro]

With a $500 budget, you can NOT beat a spyder for preformance. Nuff said. You can buy other guns, but they will not work as well, be as easy to repair, or be as accepting of newbie mistakes.

$500 won't even buy a ULE RT mag and the nitro to feed it.

The BKO, and Impulse are not in the same preformance category as a spyder.

A LX mag, is. Execpt for the trigger. An e-frame, or a gun that will take a ULE trigger, will push the gun only price well above $500. And where the spyder is quite fine on co2, the mag will need nitro at that point.

I have ~900 invested in my spyder. I have an IS board, halo, nwpb feed adapter, LPC, the Esprit itself, a Dye ultralight, an apoc rail, a halo b, a centerflag 201 68/45 system, and a centerflage cradle. I did not overpay for the preformance I get. For the same $1000 budget, you could not math the preformance I get from this setup.

I get 23bps consistantly (if I set the debounce low enough...) I have shot queing, I get 1700 shots off a 68/45. And it stops on paint. OH yea.. and it runs 700psi ;-)

lets not forget a mag though. If you read the manual, there's almost no problem you can't solve for yourself, the factory support is superb, and it's a gun that's constantly under development. This cannot be said about spyders.. which have basicly plateued. (however, we'll still trying to find out exactly where that plateau is.)

Oh yea. I own a Micromag. And you couldn't offer me enough money to sell it. I've always felt that way, and with AGD's support it's only gotten better. (LX, powertube spacers, ULT shims in the old style on/off)

[Gabriel]

^^^^^bravo, bravo... very well said