Angel 4 press release on paintball.com...warning typical marketing hype...

[Ov3rmind]

My opinion is, you guys are overreacting. I mean, jeez, just let go of your freaking crusade already. The rof debates are so old and tired, it's just as annoying as reading spam.

[WARPED1]

I like how when another gun company makes claims that are better than your preciouis, immpossible to get, Xmags, you all doubt them. Well, John Rice and WDP happen to know what the hell they're talking about.
They work tirelessly improving thier design. You will all doubt them, until you shoot one.
Take a stock 98 LED and it'll outperform many other guns on the market, even your mags!
Before you all go trashing thier claims, go test one out for your self! Then, if it doesn't perform as advertised(I bet it will), then you can talk feces.

[JEDI]

Originally posted by Ov3rmind
My opinion is, you guys are overreacting. I mean, jeez, just let go of your freaking crusade already. The rof debates are so old and tired, it's just as annoying as reading spam.

HERE HERE!!!!

I have nothing wrong with proof and evidence. I'm sick of the way some of you guys hunt down other companies, and bash them. Come on! You wrote WDP a letter? You're a Mag fan. You shoot an Automag. Why do you feel the need to disclaim every other Gun company. Who are you... Smart Parts? Let it go. Make your own decisions, and let others do the same.

[BlackVCG]

I hope this pushes the prices down on the Speed so I can get one of those.

[Ov3rmind]

Originally posted by BlackVCG
I hope this pushes the prices down on the Speed so I can get one of those.

Yeah, I was hoping the same thing. And you just know LCDs and IR3s are gonna go even lower too.

[lack of grace]

Originally posted by Oregon_pb_
Prol $1300+ and is actually the same as any other marker. The fact that they mention its the world best at everything... lol



How can it feed and shoot 33 balls per second???

"BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH $1300"

How much does the xmag cost? How is it significantly better than a emag with a ule and xvalve?

[Animal Mother]

Originally posted by BlackVCG
I hope this pushes the prices down on the Speed so I can get one of those.

That would be nice since I am going to buy one next week

Black, you have good taste in markers, hehe

[SkeL]

Originally posted by lack of grace



"BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH $1300"

How much does the xmag cost? How is it significantly better than a emag with a ule and xvalve?

Best quote on AO ever

[painball]

There is too much hype over how fast a gun can cycle these days. I dont understand why all these people get so stuck up on speed they dont care to notice it wont help your game past 15 or 16bps. I cant think of any human finger pulling any trigger, no matter how light it is, 20+bps.

[breg]

The New Angel looks sweet. I like the way it looks, and I held one of the older IR3's and found out that the "Space Frame" is actually pretty comfortable. I've yet to try out a Y Gripped Mag.
As for pirce, I don't know. It's seems that you always pay and pay for an Angel. And of course, those who buy one today, will find that Warped Sportz has just released the new limited edition, so the one the you just bought is now not as cool...
I like Angels, always have. I just think that they really try too hard to add new stuff to the guns that they make. They jam pack more and more into the guns. I'm waiting for the optional Espresso maker attachment. Some of the features I can understand, but some just seem like too much. As far as I'm concerned, as long as I can bank on that paint-slinger throwing as much paint as trigger pulls. Then I like the marker.
As for the review, yeah it was full of hype, but then again, I think it's the job of the marketing people to hype it up to the public, and create a buzz for it. Though, I found myself going "Chuff, Chuff" at a point or two in the review.
All in all, I'm looking forward to hearing about how this paint-slinger preforms. Keep me posted, if anyone gets a chance to rip on it.
Later,
Breg

[aaron_mag]

Totally off topic but I think of the whole "Chuff Chuff" thing like Steve Wozniak (sp?) versus Steve Jobs. Tom is more like the Woz who was a brilliant engineer and had a sense of humor. As a joke he circulated a flyer at one of the tech shows on the fictional Zaltaire personal computer(complete with bench tests showing it outperforming his own Apple computer). It is said that Jobs picked up one of the flyer and was worried at how the Zaltaire was outperforming the Apple .

That being said you still need a marketing genius like Jobs. I see nothing wrong with WDP doing a press release like this as it is the job of marketers to create interest. As the advertising guy in Rodger Dodger said it is the advertisers job to make consumers feel inadequate and unhappy. An unhappiness that luckily (insert product here) can cure and solve.

[FooTemps]

I like the milling... I don't like the hype and prie! lol

Man, I wish I could afford and angel... or a matrix... or a viking... or an alien... or a ule emag... or etc on and on forever and ever.

[Hexis]

Originally posted by lamby

Just for a quick reference there are only 30 pictures per second that make up a tv picture, Movies run at 24 pictures a second,

Slight correction. A NTSC signal is 60 fields per second, each field has 1/2 of the complete image in an interlaced format. So each line gets updated every 1/30th of a second, however one of the two fields is updated every 1/60th of a second.

[raehl]

Originally posted by WARPED1
I like how when another gun company makes claims that are better than your preciouis, immpossible to get, Xmags, you all doubt them. Well, John Rice and WDP happen to know what the hell they're talking about... go test one out for your self! Then, if it doesn't perform as advertised(I bet it will), then you can talk feces.

If John Rice is the one responsible for claiming that the new angel has a flatter trajetory due to low pressure (or for any other reason other than wind, curved barrel, or gravity field), he is either an idiot or a liar.

Period.

And if you believe it, you are also not an example of critical thought.

- Chris

[Lohman446]