Soo.. Tom.. Tommy Tom Tom.. how about those Reg seats?

[Nachos]

Ya know.. for all the people that have very expensive door stops and those who rely on their Flatline, which is an AGD product....

Last word is that AGD USA had them.. so.. have you finished testing? Cause.. I need one. If it can last 1 day of testing that is a hell of a lot better than nothing. So like.. put 'em for sale! This isn't a roller trigger or Y grip or something neato and cool.. this is something to fix a flaw in one of your already finished and sold products.

That whole back and front burner stuff.. this one should have the fricken house on fire as a priority.

[DiRTyBuNNy]

um..I'm guessing your mother never taught you how to subtle...and so you just act rude and think it's the same thing..

[Marek]

Re: Soo.. Tom.. Tommy Tom Tom.. how about those Reg seats?

Originally posted by Nachos
Ya know.. for all the people that have very expensive door stops and those who rely on their Flatline, which is an AGD product....

Last word is that AGD USA had them.. so.. have you finished testing? Cause.. I need one. If it can last 1 day of testing that is a hell of a lot better than nothing. So like.. put 'em for sale! This isn't a roller trigger or Y grip or something neato and cool.. this is something to fix a flaw in one of your already finished and sold products.

That whole back and front burner stuff.. this one should have the fricken house on fire as a priority.

Good point, since AGD has nothing else to do or worry about and should cater to you with your sparkling charm and dazzling intellect.

Some of us here on the boards are waiting for things too, like ULE Rtps and X-Mags. You don't see us creating threads do you?

[Nachos]

DiRTyBuNNy, rude would be stealing $360 from someone. How were they ripped off? Well purchasing a product for $360 that has a flaw and the company that made that product chooses to release Y L M N O P grips, light mechanical triggers and ULE Warp feeds to make MORE money instead of worrying about the CUSTOMERS that have ALREADY givin' them their money. I mean... after all.. why the hell should you take care of them? You already got their hard earned cash.

Marek, you are damn right they should cater to myself and the many people that spent money on a defective product. This is one plastic seal. No moving parts, no assembly needed. I don't care if you need a special plastic that comes from a tribe in the amazons that can only be crafted by Willy Wonkas Oompa Loompas in his chocolate factory. You fix your damn product before you make new ones.

This $360 air system becomes a freaking door stop, paper weight, nice conversation piece for the living room because of a $5 part. I want my money back so I can buy something from Centerflag or Air America. Because they can at least produce theses magical regulator seats.

The newest reg seats were shipped from AGD Europe what... 2 or 3 weeks ago? Well I want mine. Charge me a whooping $10 double your profit and I'll buy two of them, I don't really care.. I just want a freakin' reg seat for my $360 lemon. AGD has always been bent on quality... taking care of the customer.. why the hell do they have to drop the ball on their HPA system?

Do I sound pissed off? You're damn right I'm pissed off. This is a bunch of crap. You shaved head Nike shoe wearing cult members can all take a big ole swig of a vodka and cyanide cocktail for all I care. I'm the one that dropped my wad of cash on AGD when I could have just as well thrown it at SmartParts.

[FooTemps]

yep, agd sucks for one fuss up... no one else ever screws up and needs to make recalls/fixes... yep...

[Nachos]

What recall? What fix? They have known about the screwed up reg seats for a LONG time now. A fix would have been VERY nice, ya know like 2 or 3 months after they have known about it, is that a short amount of time? It's a freaking piece of plastic!!!! I don't care about suppliers to produce it blah blah blah... it is still a piece of round plastic that makes a $360 product FUNCTION. This part should have been FIXED, RECALLED WHATEVER long before your limp wrist grips and warp ULE's were made. Like I said.. why should they worry about the people who's already givin' AGD their money.

And even then.. the old reg seats WORKED, just not very good and for a long time, that is a hell of a lot better than nothing at all. Blah blah... "wanna get it right the 2nd time around", that's great for 3 or so months.. when it gets into the years, shove the damn thing out the door and count your losses later.

[Marek]

Well, someone needs to take their Zoloft. You think you are the only person to spend money on their products? Like no one other than you has a problem with the reg seat? There are other ppl on these forums that are waiting for things, and we have the deceny to not act like children.

I've been waiting for my gun since May, and what I'm waiting for is not even an Xmag. Do you see my complaining? Nope. Do you see me like a ranting like a lunatic? Nope. There is a proper way of doing things, and acting like a 5 yr. old who wants a happy meal is not the way to do it. Be civilized in your posts, even if you don't post here regularly or call AGD.

If you are not happy with the answer that they give you, and if it is such a hastle, sell your tank and get another one. Don't keep your "defective $390 paperweight" and get something from a company you think is perfect.

Very simple, need to calm down and contact them. I am sure that there is a perfectly good explaination to the delay.

[Marek]

Re: ...

Originally posted by RogueFactor
Although the delivery may be a bit crass....

you gotta admit, he does have a valid point.

Yes, but there is a way to do it. Coming here with both guns blasting, just going crazy is not exactly going to do him any favors.

He's waiting for a reg seat. I'm waiting for a gun. Dirtybunny is waiting for an X-Mag. These are things that we want, and the anticipation is dreadful, but they haven't been available yet for us. But, there is a way to do it, and I don't see the tone and attitude that he has is the way to do it.

[Marek]

Re: Re: Re: ...

Originally posted by RogueFactor


Hence the word crass.

And of course the difference being is that you knew there would be a wait for the X-Mag before you bought into it. There was no such foresight for the Flatline.

Nope, I didn't buy an X-Mag. I'm waiting for an XRTP.

[DiRTyBuNNy]

Yes, but as Marek has noted Tom is aware of the problem and they are actively working towards a solution. They were looking for suppliers and are testing the reg seats to make sure that they are up to snuff as far as quality. I'm sure you'd rather have AGD test the reg seats and be able to tell you that you shouldn't have future problems with them or would you rather have them just sending you a reg seat and have you expect to work and then tell you "told you so" if it doesn't because you wanted it right now. I'm sorry to tell you it doesn't work that way.

As far as people not knowing that there was a problem with reg seats being backordered; that's not true, Tom has acknowledged it and the information was public here on AO. If you don't choose to do research before you make a purchase, that's your own fault.

You ever thought about flipping over your reg seat like BlackVCG had suggested or have you not done any research at all on your "$3xx paperweight"?

[edweird]

Eigh... well "abducting" an Xmag at IAO did seem to highten the issue a bit... even if it was in jest.

[kenndogg]

guys I hate to say it but Nachos is right. Don't get all fussy b/c god..err I mean AGD is being called out.

[steveg]

I'm with Nachos on this one.

the basis of most of the arguments here are
"How dare you criticize AGD"
and
"I don't have the new gun/accessory that I want yet, so
that disqualifies you from complaining about the unusable
product that you own."

[Marek]

Originally posted by steveg
I'm with Nachos on this one.

the basis of most of the arguments here are
"How dare you criticize AGD"
and
"I don't have the new gun/accessory that I want yet, so
that disqualifies you from complaining about the unusable
product that you own."

Has nothing to do with AGD being "called out." Hell, I don't even work for the company, so I'm not going to lose any sleep if they mess up. If someone wants to criticize AGD, that's their right.

The problem I have is this elitist attitude as he is the only one waiting for stuff from AGD and AGD is just sitting around tuning their Polka Band. AGD does not need to cater to anyone, especially people who have the lack of respect of a decent human being. They already posted that they are being tested and when they are ready they will ship out. How much more of an answer do you need? Yes, you want them now, but they are not ready. Do you think by complaining, that the problem will just vanish?

What about people that ordered ULE Emags? They are waiting for barrels to come back from anno. He's complaining about his $390 paperweight that doesn't work and wants to be catered to. Well what about people that don't have a gun to use because they are waiting? With his logic, they should get priority, because they spent more money. They spent $XXX amount and they should be listened and adored by AGD. And people with X-Mags, well they are at the bottom of the barrel, because they should of known it would take a long time.

Arguing about which item takes priority is stupid, because the part/gun that you want in your eyes is priority. It's all about decency. Acting like wild dogs over a piece of bone shows little about you or your character.

[steveg]

Marek, for all your words you are still wrong, there is
no greater sin that a company can do, than not have the
spare parts for a NEW product that is broken and unusable.

how or why those parts are unavailable is irrelevant.
That other people are waiting on other products is also
irrelevant.

I say this from the prespective of several years as
a service engineer and service manager of a large
machine tool company.