Soo.. Tom.. Tommy Tom Tom.. how about those Reg seats?

[JEDI]

Ok, so Tom posted. Has anyone tried calling to see if they're in? The store says no.

[Marek]

How nice, selectively quote phrases.

Originally posted by joey d
actually, if 2 weeks go by that I dont see a thread about someone waiting on their xmag or other mag.. i start to worry..

You misunderstand. How many of the posts are in the manner for which he wrote? Yes, he is mad and frustrated, but does that mean that decency should be thrown out because of this? The company made a mistake, but no, he doesn't have the right to whine like a child. I have written over and over that yes, I agree that he has a valid point. It's the manner taken that I find wrong. But, Mr. Kaye already posted, so it makes no difference.

Originally posted by joey d
not all of us are made of money. my best guess is that nachos would have to sell his current flatline to get a new tank setup. seeing as how the flatline doesnt work without the regseat.. its going to be difficult to sell it to someone else who is willing to wait for AGD to release the 45k regseats.

You telling this to the person with no gun? My best advice is then he should have researched it more closely. I'm sorry, but that was already posted that you should know what your buying. I wish there was a nice answer, but I don't see it.

Originally posted by joey d
Say he bought a car from a company with a great record. Then a little while after he buys it, the engine blows up because of a faulty computer. So he calls the company to tell them and they say, we know, we are getting new ones made. Now he waits for them to get a new one made, while he is out 20k on a new car that he can't drive.

It loses form after he calls the company to tell them. Either of us have no idea if he called the company. But let's say he did, do you think it's right to call any company and just start yelling and screaming that the engine blew? How will that move anything forward? Is the person going to feel better? Maybe, but why at the cost of the company. They know they made a mistake, should they be hunted and burned also for their wrong doing? That is my point. Most, if not all that "don't get it" understand his point. The difference is the way it was said. To me, words have a lot of impact, and the way it was said was important. Guess most don't feel that way, that is there right. Yes, he has a right to criticize, but not the right to be prickish about it.

[FalconGuy016]

Marek, you have just won the award for fighting the best fight you could ever pull out of such a little base.

[GT]

Originally posted by FalconGuy016
Marek, you have just won the award for fighting the best fight you could ever pull out of such a little base.

I think that is called being a "troll"

Come on man give it up.

[Marek]

Originally posted by FalconGuy016
Marek, you have just won the award for fighting the best fight you could ever pull out of such a little base.

Gracias, I think. Can I get my gun now?

[Marek]

Originally posted by gtrsi


I think that is called being a "troll"

Come on man give it up.

Hey now, not a troll. I mean, the freshman 15 weren't nice, but come on.

Just giving my opinion. Nothing wrong with that.

[lamby]

Nacho is right... Dead on, no complaints here. My flatline reg set failed at an AO meet. TK personally gave and installed another for me on the spot. VERY COOL...

But bad practice is bad practice is bad practice, and the reg seat debacle was/is bad practice.

I think these replacement should be free to all that want them FOR FREE!!!

If you have a known problem, FIX IT !!! Excuses are like A-holes, they smell and everyone has one.

I have a spare nitroduck 68/45 xtream that is ready and willing to jump in the flatlines place if I need it. I dont care as much as someone who has NO tank to use, But it is still a pile of brown partially digested food, that you make an expensive "top of the line" tank useless with a poorly designed reg seal system.

Just my two cents on this.

Tom.. Thanks hor the heads Up, If you have them in stock I will want to get 3 or 4 incase this happens again. And again you guys have, what is starting to sound like a broken record", supplier problems I will be ready.

PS.. I would still like to see a 45k flatline rebuild kit. Something I have been asking for a year

[Beaver]

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13717

For those that are saying AGD is working hard on getting them right and just to give them time, I looked up this thread and saw the same stuff, only this was *looks at watch - then looks at date of post* two years ago...

[Marek]

Originally posted by Beaver
http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=13717

For those that are saying AGD is working hard on getting them right and just to give them time, I looked up this thread and saw the same stuff, only this was *looks at watch - then looks at date of post* two years ago...

Who's said to give them time?

[wyn1370]

it's taken a year to get a $5 part????????????????
hahahahahahahahahahaha
customer service my butt
quality don't mean nothing if it ain't available

AGD
because quality is always on backorder

[JEDI]

Originally posted by wyn1370
it's taken a year to get a $5 part????????????????
hahahahahahahahahahaha
customer service my butt
quality don't mean nothing if it ain't available

AGD
because quality is always on backorder

Haha! I smell Sig Quote!

[lamby]

Just another point to this thread...

It is made of a type of plastic.. Dont ask me what kind, but I would figure something like delrin is prob correct.

If it is a hard plastic it can be machined to size (like the large delrin seals in news truck masts, which are also pneumatic) Why does AGD has this hardon for europe when we have a ton of capable machine shops that run screw machines, and if those are too loose for tolerance precision lathes?

Get me the ProE drawing or AC 2000 or better drawing of this part with all specs and tolerances and let me see if I can have them made by my friends in the know.

Tell me what material and give me the drawing and I am sure I can have them made within 3 months.. much less than 2 years, and AGD designed the damn thing. All praise to reverse engineering. Hell get me a new seat and I can make the .DWG file for it, and I suck at AC in 3d.

[Dayspring]

Well, I know that the seats are in and what not. I was at Shatnerball and Kayle changed an old one for a new one in Mel/PBX's Flatline. He used it all day on sunday at a tourney. So there's the test. They work so far.

As for the material, it's a 98 durometer hardness material. Apparently it's available only in Europe. That's why John Sosta was doing the work on it. I'm figuring that it's another one of those AGDE owned things that AGD is using. Much like the Xmags.

Although, I would like my Flatline as well. Blazingace and I ordered 2 88/4500s back in Feb. I'd kinda like to use it some point this year.

[lamby]

Dayspring

I need more than that, I found a supplier of 98 durometer polyethelene in 8 seconds on the net that sells in 3/4" round stock. What is the material? what does it need to do other than seal, and not deform?

I dont believe this europe crap for one second.. Unless it is a 3rd world country in europe (like bosnia) that will do the work for $.25 on the dollar. you can get ANYTHING you want right here, you just have to look. I know machinists that could make the x mag with the drawings right here in Milwaukee. There is an anno shop right down from my work too. I gaurentee Chicago has these resources also.

[GT]

Originally posted by wyn1370

AGD
because quality is always on backorder

bro you need to add somemore to the list.

AKA
JMJ
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