cocker or mag what yall think?

[ZeezNutz]

i am a new member of staff at a field near my home. they are looking at me to join their team. its a novice team. everyone there shoots cockers. my tippman 98 is not good for speedball because its about 3 feet long and still isnt nearlly as accurate as their guns. one guy is willing to sell me a mag for 225 and he says its in really good condition and works like a dream. this is a man who is also on the team and who i trust very well, but if you mention the word mag everyone else starts to flip out. they hate mags for some reason. they complain about how short the range is on a mag and say that they are harder to work on than cockers. what do yall think?

[Shaft]

Mag's do not have a shorter range.

Mag's are not hard to work on.

[cphilip]

Get yourself away from these guys as fast as you can. They have everything backasswords. Cept for the guy with the Mag. Trust him. The others are squirrel bait

[Sqweezer]

They're just ignorant. All they have heard is "cocker good mag bad. " I'm sure most of them have never worked on a mag.

[FeelTheRT]

those guys are paintball preps. There are nothing wrong wiht Mags and they preform very similar. Mags acutally are a million times more consistant than the Cocker stock. You might hear they say stuff like, Mags do'nt have as much range and accuracy as Cockers but thats all totally bogus. All guns have the same range as long as they are at 300fps. Accuracy is based upon teh paint to barrel match and the consistancy. There are other factors such as the recoil of the gun but both Mags and Cockers have very little. I currently shoot a Ccoker right now and I really do'nt notice much difference except for the trigger feel.

[MagNumPI]

Bieng a guy that owened both a cocker and a mag (guess which one I sold), the cocker is a nice gun , and the mag is a nice gun.. saying one shoots farther then the other implies that one of the two setups is either HOT or in under 280 fps.. take both systems and place them side by side , same paint , same velocity and fire.. you'll see they both are EXACTLY the same.

Downs: Cocker: -Timing (not a big deal but if done wrong you get a chopper)
-Pnematics , sure they look cool , but remeber the more moving parts, the more trouble they can produce.
-BLOWBACK , if it is not timed perfectly you get blowback.. results in ball soup.

Mags have next to no downs , except mabey blowback , fix get a new bolt or a powerfeed. mags are smaller and more responsive.. tell you "team friends" to get out of the hype and get into the technical.. EVERY gun fires the same distance if the paint to barrel match is good and the velocity is the same.

IMO Cockers are fun if you like show off a flashy marker and to stay at the staging area and fiddle , if you like to play and win buy a mag.

Simple!

[Russ]

"...get out of the hype and get into the technical"

Oh, how true! Range. Accuracy. Reliability. Get out of the hype and into the technical! Best line I've heard in a while!

[MagNumPI]

It's true.. ask any new cocker owner..

Why did you get the cocker?

"It is the most accurate marker in the game..."

What makes it this way?

"I don't know it just is.. besides it looks cool with the back block moving.. this makes it better"



Only an avid player will admit that they are both equal. Everyone else thinks is better cause it's flashy.

[FooTemps]

I want a mag...simple, tough, relable, and not a pain. I can only play paintball 4 times a year so I don't want to fiddle with stuff while I'm there, I want to enjoy the time I spend there... But I'll only do this if I win the rt that's up for grabs right now... or if I can scrounge up enough money to pay e_magman for his mag...

[PyRo]

Well, it really depends what you like more, mags or cockers. But no way is a mag harder to work on, you need an engineering degree to work on a cocker :). Maybie not that hard, but alot harder than a mag. Range is the same with all guns.

[zvanut]

go against the flow goldfish

always wanted to say that :)

[gam-e]

i got a cocker to experience other types of markers, it has now become my primary marker.

why else did i get it? the moving back block

mmmmmmmmmh, look at the shiny chrome thing moving, aaaah

[MagMan5446]

The only reason there is a cocker/mag debate is because of the prefix "auto"

You gotta listen to a lil' bit of public enemy.

Don't believe the hype!!

[MagNumPI]

You know what, I never thought of it that way and it probably makes sense on some level.

[The Mag Man]

I thought this story would be appropriate for this thread:

About 6 months ago, my friend bought a brand new PF Automag. He plays with for about a month. After one month, he goes back to the pro shop where he bought it at. They start telling him about the Autococker. "The Mags are good, but Cockers get more range and are more accurate." My friend took the bait perfectly. He walked out of that store with a brand new 2001 Cocker with a complete Freak set. Those guys at that shop knew exactly what they were doing the second he walked in. My point is that ignorant people will tell you anything to make THEMSELVES believe what they are saying. Take your "team" for example. They tell you that their cockers are better, but do they know why? NO, of course they don't because they are ignorant. Just because something costs more, doesn't make it better.

Stick with a Mag, and go give those Cocker boys hell.