cocker or mag what yall think?

[MagMan5446]

Your story is implying that the store owners are at fault. They're just trying to make a buck. It's your friends fault, he should've researched these things. The owners aren't ignorant, they're smart, it's your friend that's ignorant, no offense to him though.

[The Mag Man]

Sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like the store was ingnorant. You are right, my bud was being ingnorant, thats why he fell hook line and sinker for their propaganda. But the store did pull off a nice scam on my bud. It just made me mad to think he just wasted 600 dollars.

[Russ]

The store in that 'Cocker story, is a lot like a store near me (and I suspect like a lot of stores, all around the country) There are perpetuating myths about a 'Cocker's range and accuracy being superior to most other guns, and a Mags rep for being a paint blender. It's too bad, really. I see a couple of my buds messing with their 'Cockers, air leaks, out of time, chopping balls, broken parts, and they take it all in stride. I get a barrel break in the E-Mag, and their all over me! Blender!

From what I've seen, a lot of 'Cocker problems come from peoples' perception that they MUST be modified to perform. This is far from the truth, but folks are compeled to modify them, and usually make them LESS reliable.

'Cocker or a Mag, get the one YOU like, not the one your "friends" say you should have. :)

[FooTemps]

All my friends say that the mag is a good paintballgun but they like the autococker cuz it looks cooler. They admit that they autococker better than the automag only because of looks and they don't care. But they all want high end electros like the emag, timmy, angel, shocker 4x4 turbo.

[Mild 7]

I have both cocker and mag, and I prefer my mag better for reliablitity. Here's my pros and cons about the both:

My Cocker:

(Pro)
1. Very, very quiet.
2. Good consistency.
3. Shoots very far and straight.
4. Don't chop ball.
5. Lighter--->CO2.

(Cons)
1. Bulky.
2. Very long trigger-pull (No trigger job)
3. Slow to fire, short-stroke easy.
4. High maintaince.
5. A LOT less reliable than my mag.

My RT:

(Pro)
1. Looks pretty.
2. High rate of fire.
3. Easy to maintain.
4. Easy to clean.
5. Extremely gas efficient.

(Cons)
1. God ITS HEAVY. (10 lbs. w/full loader & air)
2. Much louder than my cocker.
3. "I" feel the range is shorter than MY cocker.
4. Chopped more balls than my cocker.
5. Make me play paintball too much.

Both are great, and I love'em both. But, I've been using my RT faithfully for the past 3 years and used my cocker as a back-up gun. Funny thing is, I never had to use the back-up in the past 3 years.

[Miscue]

I ordered a Retro Valve from some paintball shop. I came to pick it up. They said they didn't order it because "I really didn't want one. It would turn my gun into a blender." I was kinda POed about that.

[FooTemps]

Originally posted by Miscue
I ordered a Retro Valve from some paintball shop. I came to pick it up. They said they didn't order it because "I really didn't want one. It would turn my gun into a blender." I was kinda POed about that.

LOL! WHAT IDIOTS!!! HAHAHAHA!!! Blender, LOL! LOL! Don't they know that the retro is the fastest valve on the market and no ultra-alpha-number uno-super-light-fast-mega-lighting-fire-water-Z-speed autococker could match it? Well, they would know that the retro is good but they want you to buy that ultra-blah, blah, blah... autococker for 2000 dolla....

[theraidenproject]

am i the only one that doesn't like the cocker back block moving? Seriously, point and shoot? or psst, clack, shoot? I think cockers are ok, but i very much prefer mags. also, about buying a mag, i think it's very smart to just sell it w/out barrel, hose connectoins, etc, b/c it makes it cheaper, and most people change all those anyway, as opposed to a cocker with comes with barrel, bottom line, etc (at least my friend's did anyway)

[MagNumPI]

Cockers don't coem with bottom line setups , you have to get the shop to install it, and it's extra.

[theraidenproject]

magnumpi - ok. my friends had one when he got it. i didnt know the store did it, i didn't ask, i just assumed it came with it.

[Bartman]

My personal preffrence would be a cocker.

But, there should be no diffrence in accuracy and range between the 2 guns.

It realy all comes down to personal preference in the end.


Bartman
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[slateman]

Here we go again! Another stupid Mag v Cocker debate.

First off, this is an Automag forum supported by AGD.
What do you think were gonna do, recomend an autococker?!?

Second, its all about preference. I shot both guns before making a decision. I liked the mag better. I was just more comfortable with it. End of story.

Third,and I cannot stress this enough, RANGE IS EQUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is a question of physics, and you can't cheat physics. (Well actually you can but thats way to complicated for here) A mag shooting 300fps will go the same distance as a cocker at 300fps if both have the same barrel.

Fourth, Mags are not harder to work on. In fact, IMO, they are easy. You need two tools, an allen wrench and a nickle.
Next time they say that, ask them how many times they worked on a mag. Better yet, ask them how many times they've replaced their three-way hoses


All in all, go with what your most comfortable with. If its a mag, great. Show us a picture and register it with AGD. If its a cocker, well thats great for you. But know this: I'm gunning for you

[ZeezNutz]

not a debate its help

i practicly get spit at because i shoot something other then a cocker. i think about getting a mag and they jump on me even worse. this makes a person think. and i came here to ask if maby they were correct in some of the things they said or if they were wrong.

anyway,
thank you everyone else for your help. i am going to get that mag if it is what he says it is. and maby someone who they acctually know having a mag will help to set them strait on all this.





/me tramps off into the firey gates of "cocker is better then mag" hell holding his new mag

[ZeezNutz]

oh

i almost forgot, anyone have any ideas on how to make my old talon into a berrel plug? is that even legal? help me out some of you technical wizards out there

[FooTemps]

You can turn your old talon into a barrel plug by...

Melting it and making a mold that would fit into the barrel with insets for o-rings for better fit.
Taking the talon body and plugging one side to make a hard plastic barrel condom.
OR
You could just go buy a plug...