WAS proclaims VIKING = FASTEST MARKER AVAILABLE @ 40 CPS stock! (no video)

[11_Mile_TMaster]

Okay, on the subject of 'how the hell are we supposed to test these things.'

I could be horribly wrong on this... but they use a switch of some sort to enable the circuit, right?

Why couldn't someone create an automatic trigger puller? I'm sure it's not too difficult, an adjustable frequency generator would be the place to start.

[Digits]

I don't know if this has been said yet and im not trying to be rude.. But who really cares.. The ABSOLUTE MAX you should ever need is 25bps.. 1 reson being it's not exactly physiscally possible to get over something like 22bps without bounce and such which is illegal pretty much everywhere you go.. 2 if someone was shooting 40 bps on the field (unlikely) they would just be wasting paint, and seing as how they would have to have some type of bounce to reach those speeds if they went to bunker someone.. A person could get seriously hurt.. Getting shot in the adams apple at 40 bps.. Even for half a second is still 20 balls I doubt that would feel good. 3.. Loaders.. None would feed fast enough (maybe the Q-loader, I don't know forsure)..

I don't know it's cool knowing your marker can cycle at those speeds but is it REALLY that important?

[mrhooie]

Originally posted by Digits
I don't know if this has been said yet and im not trying to be rude.. But who really cares..

Your talking to guys..

that's who

It's the same with cars - you may have 700hp and 750ft/lb torque - but I want to see it on the dyno or on the track

Put up or shut up! (to Jim Drew - he's the one with the ability to do it easily - he's developed the technology)

[Jack & Coke]

mrhooie is correct!

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

agreed

Agreed, don't say it unless you can back it up with solid proof. It may be proven right, which would be cool, but until then J+C doubting it is fine. And compared to some thread topics that start here on AO, his was just referencing a show about proving the impossible which this could or could not be. So if you don't like it, take a walk, but don't whine.

[SkyBoySurfer]

Is it actauly Physicly possible to actualy FEED at that rate?

I mean we are just puting 1 ball down a tube...and the ball falls from gravity...and mabe some back preshure from the bolt (creating a vacume to pull the ball in)...

The Formula would be V=Vo+gt

I think they would have to use the Tippman A5 feed desing to keep up with it....so you have 2 or 3 balls already set and ready to go.....

I dont think gravity of the ball its self can keep up with the ROF...I think you would just end up chopping everything...and makeing one big mess.

I realy dont think with its design it can actualy reach a ROF of 40.

Unless mabe it used a thicker heaver paintball....mabe that would be a option.

Of course thats just my opion I could be wrong.

[manike]

Re: agreed

Originally posted by QUINCYMASSGUY
Agreed, don't say it unless you can back it up with solid proof.

Jim Drew (WickedAirSportz) has NEVER proven any of his extraordinary claims.

He never proved the rate of feed that he claimed for the Turbo Rev.

He never proved his claims for the shoot down on the Timmy.

He never proved his claims of ROF for the timmy (I notice now that he is trying to sell boards for other guns that the ROF for the timmy he states is possible is lower than he used to claim possible... )

Jim Drew makes some excellent electronics. He also makes huge hype claims about his stuff that he never EVER proves.

Jim Drew will say what ever he likes to get you to buy his latest product and to put down competing products. His products are excellent so buy them for that, not the BS claims he makes to go with them.

[P4ULuk]

Had my Viking bouncing pretty impressivly but I doubt it was anywhere near 40 cps.

Paul

[GT]

Originally posted by Jack & Coke
CpSuPeRkId, gtrsi

Grow up, grow a pair, take control of your online life and stop whining about how I post.

If, in the future you find that you're feelings are still too fragile for my honest, fact-finding, anti-hype comments, you have no one but yourselves to blame!

Meanwhile, I'll still be waiting for any legit proof that a stock Viking can fully cycle 40 times per second (i.e. complete cycle = able to shoot at least one ball).

[thei3ug]

Re: Re: agreed

Originally posted by manike


Jim Drew (WickedAirSportz) has NEVER proven any of his extraordinary claims.

He never proved the rate of feed that he claimed for the Turbo Rev.

He never proved his claims for the shoot down on the Timmy.

He never proved his claims of ROF for the timmy (I notice now that he is trying to sell boards for other guns that the ROF for the timmy he states is possible is lower than he used to claim possible... )

Jim Drew makes some excellent electronics. He also makes huge hype claims about his stuff that he never EVER proves.

Jim Drew will say what ever he likes to get you to buy his latest product and to put down competing products. His products are excellent so buy them for that, not the BS claims he makes to go with them.

and with that, all the fun bickering died.

[hitech]

Originally posted by CpSuPeRkId
All of it stemmed when lots of AO couldn't accept the fact that there was a faster gun out there.

I believe it started when Miscue challenged WAS on the turbo rev. WAS claimed that it had "AI" and Miscue claimed that it could not as the processor did not have any where near enough power and memory.

That's the first one I remember.

[Micromag man!]

ok well, ive owned both a mag and i just bought a viking, i know whats goin down here, the mag owners feel challenged by the viking, so they, by instinct, immidiately try to shut out the viking, for they feel insecure about this new claim. the way i feel about it, if Mr Drew made claims about 40 CPS, even if it isnt completely true, im sure its in the neighborhood of it, and 40CPS or not, ur not getting 2000+ shots with a mag off a 68//45 so IMO Viking takes the cake AND is mr drew does prove his claim, thats just ICING on the cake. Sorry guys, get over it.

[Tobe2be]

well im a loyal mag owner i have shot a timmy and i have ripped on it. i can give a darn that a viking is better. but dont pull out numbers that cant be proven. Thats like going to a basketball court and saying you can shoot 40 points a game and are not willing to play. Either put up or shut up

[cledford]

Originally posted by Micromag man!
ok well, ive owned both a mag and i just bought a viking, i know whats goin down here, the mag owners feel challenged by the viking, so they, by instinct, immidiately try to shut out the viking, for they feel insecure about this new claim. the way i feel about it, if Mr Drew made claims about 40 CPS, even if it isnt completely true, im sure its in the neighborhood of it, and 40CPS or not, ur not getting 2000+ shots with a mag off a 68//45 so IMO Viking takes the cake AND is mr drew does prove his claim, thats just ICING on the cake. Sorry guys, get over it.

Wrong on this - I own a Viking and an Emag. Furthermore, I also owned a Timmy. Expecting people to produce proof of their claims (especially if they sell products based on such claims) is reasonable. If we are to expect that Jim Drew, Ethan, or anyone else is actually brilliant enough to produce products that do what they *claim* they can do -then they should also have the ability to gather data on this performance and SHOW IT to people. It's not that hard, just check out deep blue for what REAL data looks like. It certainly isn't some statement that "Bob and I did X,Y, &Z and this is what we saw..."

You guys hanging on the Drew's/Ethan's/Smart-Parts of the world are just cattle who bristle when reminded of your own apathy and lack of courage. You'd rather buy an upgrade and brag about what someone else *says* it can do rather than develop the skills and mindset to determine yourselves whether you've been lied to and paid hard earned money to only "feel good."

-Calvin

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by Micromag man!
, the mag owners feel challenged by the viking, so they, by instinct, immidiately try to shut out the viking, for they feel insecure about this new claim.

Seems to me the ones with feelings of inadequacy are the ones that keep having to buy 'upgrade' boards based on unproven hype and unsubstantiated claims.

the way i feel about it, if Mr Drew made claims about 40 CPS, even if it isnt completely true, im sure its in the neighborhood of it

AO is not a board full of kiddy idol worshipers. Your opinion doesn't mean squat. We're asking what neighbourhood it's in and we want proof. Otherwise it's just empty claims and worthless personal opinion.

and 40CPS or not

Uhm, whatever. That is what this thread is all about. Where ya been? Sleeping?

ur not getting 2000+ shots with a mag off a 68//45 so IMO Viking takes the cake AND is mr drew does prove his claim, thats just ICING on the cake. Sorry guys, get over it.

MR. Drew's claim has nothing to do with shots per tank. Nothing has been proved.

And if you are going to bring up shots per tank, it's about time someone put various guns and setups over a chrony and gave some real data on that question as well.