5 Reasons to not get an Emag...?

[Carbon]

Ok, i turn to AO cause yall are the bomb when it comes to this kinda stuff...

5 reasons to not get an e mag, if not more. I want to hear from all ya former and current e-mag owners. I know most of yall love your mags and what not (i love my mech mag) but what i like most of AO is the honesty. So anything from a technical or even a subjective standpoint, just gimme some reasons.

Thnx for your time.
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[Derman2k]

The only thing I could say is weight...but thats gone with all the ULE stuff now.

Oh yea...the trigger-you can't make it super short like an eblade or viking or something like that.

And the efficiency but that doesn't really matter with all day air.

[Steelrat]

Remember, I just got an Xmag, so no flaming, but there are flaws. Here we go.

1. One of the worst electronic triggers of all time. I was able to rip on the viking and timmys, this trigger is a pain in the butt compared to them.

2. Efficiency-Not too good, and it cant shoot very deep into the tank.

3. No ACE. Level X is good, but break beam ACE is better.

4. Weight. ULE'd emags are pretty light, but the stock ones are tanks.

5. Battery design. I know there is a reason for it, but just popping in a 9v is much easier.

OUt of curiosity, why didnt you ask for a best AND worst 5?

[i_baked_cookies]

to not get one???? are you crazy??????

ok

weight- unless u get xvalve and ule body, but the battery still makes it heavy

gaint battery on front- i hate it cuz its so big

buttons on back of frame sometimes dont work




thats about it, everything else is perfect

fast
reliable
easy to use
easy to maintain

[adam shannon]

top 5 reasons to not buy an e-mag...

5) you hate having a mechanical backup on your electro gun

4) you hate it when your gun works almost all the time with little maintenance

3) it blows having the fastest recharging valve on the market

2) the simplicty of having a great marker that doesnt require monthly new upgrades to perform is something you would hate

and the #1 reason to not buy an e-mag...

1) because 20bps isnt fast enough for you...when you could have a was'd anything that still will only fire 20 bps with paint.

[FooTemps]

Originally posted by Steelrat
Remember, I just got an Xmag, so no flaming, but there are flaws. Here we go.

1. One of the worst electronic triggers of all time. I was able to rip on the viking and timmys, this trigger is a pain in the butt compared to them.

2. Efficiency-Not too good, and it cant shoot very deep into the tank.

3. No ACE. Level X is good, but break beam ACE is better.

4. Weight. ULE'd emags are pretty light, but the stock ones are tanks.

5. Battery design. I know there is a reason for it, but just popping in a 9v is much easier.

OUt of curiosity, why didnt you ask for a best AND worst 5?

I disagree about the trigger, I personally like the magnet trigger.

[Steelrat]

Magnet triggers can be fine, I did quite well with the eblade. However, its adjustability is a bit wonky (adding spacers?), there is no factory blade (usually better for walking), and the HES is more difficult to tune than a microswitch. The eblade trigger has a better range of adjustment. I would guess they went with the HES because the trigger still had to be able to activate the sear rod to work mechanically, and so they couldnt have a rod coming from the trigger to activate a microswitch. If so, thats understandable, but still not as easy to deal with. I've always been of the opinion that they should have ditched the mech mode and went for a much lighter and more conventional getup. This is even more viable with the ULT, as it allows a smaller solenoid. Imagine something like the hyperframe, that would be an unbelieveably light and fast e-mag.

[~WarpedRT#2~]

5) battery pack feels loose, and irritates me greatly (other peoples) when I had an E-Mag, though, it had a displaced battery pack.

4) Trigger feels strange if it isnt set too short

3) grip frame feels like you are trying to wrap your hand around a car.

2)Heavy

1)cant think of anything else.

[FalconGuy016]

Originally posted by adam shannon
top 5 reasons to not buy an e-mag...

5) you hate having a mechanical backup on your electro gun

4) you hate it when your gun works almost all the time with little maintenance

3) it blows having the fastest recharging valve on the market

2) the simplicty of having a great marker that doesnt require monthly new upgrades to perform is something you would hate

and the #1 reason to not buy an e-mag...

1) because 20bps isnt fast enough for you...when you could have a was'd anything that still will only fire 20 bps with paint.

[prikkaboo]

I've had an emag for around 2 years, so I think I'm qualified to put in a few...

1. Velocity/Chrono: the rise in velocity at higher rates of fire makes me a little uneasy during tourneys, the chrono procedure is long and very involved

2. Battery life: The battery lasts a long time, but angels and other guns kill it. It supposedly lasts 20,000 shots, but I've heard of it being less. If your a backman, you might be cutting it close.

3. Rt Runaway: If you have a preset air tank you might get runaway in rt mode, which will make your emag not tourney legal. Also, the hybrid mode is easy to make go runaway, which could also be bad for tournies. I cut off my selector switch so that i wouldn't get hassled by refs.

4. Efficiency: The gun isn't a hog, but there are a lot of guns out there that are a lot better. If you shoot a lot of paint, you'll definately need a bigger 4500 tank.

5. On/Off and charging: if you have an older style emag, the yellow pin can be a bit of a pain, and to charge the gun you have to take the battery off.

These are pretty much the only things that I could find wrong with my gun, and I've had it for two years, so you know they're not really that bad. If you're gonna be playing a lot of tournies the chronoing thing could be a major drawback. I've been able to deal with it, but it really is a pain and I'm always worried about hot gun penalties. Overall this gun is great though, and for the most part the problems are minor.

[ICOM]

i like that adam, ha

Only true reasons is:

-Some love the emag triggers some dont, if your one of those dont then thats a reason.

-I also dont mind the battery being there,sure it be nicer if it was smaller but not a reason not to buy.

-if buying stock,weight might be a issue.

-Lx problems, but people never have them set up right so they complain.

[Carbon]

Originally posted by adam shannon
top 5 reasons to not buy an e-mag...

5) you hate having a mechanical backup on your electro gun

4) you hate it when your gun works almost all the time with little maintenance

3) it blows having the fastest recharging valve on the market

2) the simplicty of having a great marker that doesnt require monthly new upgrades to perform is something you would hate

and the #1 reason to not buy an e-mag...

1) because 20bps isnt fast enough for you...when you could have a was'd anything that still will only fire 20 bps with paint.

Wow

[Twon]

Originally posted by Steelrat
Remember, I just got an Xmag, so no flaming, but there are flaws. Here we go.

1. One of the worst electronic triggers of all time. I was able to rip on the viking and timmys, this trigger is a pain in the butt compared to them.

2. Efficiency-Not too good, and it cant shoot very deep into the tank.

3. No ACE. Level X is good, but break beam ACE is better.

4. Weight. ULE'd emags are pretty light, but the stock ones are tanks.

5. Battery design. I know there is a reason for it, but just popping in a 9v is much easier.

OUt of curiosity, why didnt you ask for a best AND worst 5?

I have to agree with Steelrat on this one with the trigger. Mine was very hard to adjust with a super short travel. The trigger was a bit sloppy and there wasn't any blade trigger available at that time. Even thought, I could easily rip with it. All the guys with Matrixes I was playing with, kept asking me if I was shooting fully auto.

As for air efficiency, well, it's not the worse, but compared to a Angel, Timmy, Vicking, you need to refill more often, no big deal during a tournament. But if you're playing in a big game you might get frustrated.

The ACE worked well for me, never got chops.

The battery pack, either you like it or not.

Overall, mine was working great before I encounter alot of problems, that's why I had to sell it. If you want to know the whole story, PM moi, I don't want to post it here, Tom might get an heart attack :o

1. Price, you can get something ''better'' on paper for less
2. Trigger
3. No upgrades like different style of triggers, locking feedneck, etc.
4. None knows them good/carries parts in stock, I live in Canada so eh!
5. Availability

Twon

[Carbon]

Originally posted by Steelrat


OUt of curiosity, why didnt you ask for a best AND worst 5?

Ive already heard the good stuff, just wanna see the flip side of the coin. Thnx for yer input.
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[Prairie]

Didn't even look at the rest of the posts, but here are my top 5 reasons:

Weight/Balance - don't like the weight (while my viking is only a little lighter) and I dont like the balance of the gun with hopper/tank

Trigger- The stock emag trigger as its set basically sucks, magnets or no.

Battery- I never liked the battery design..just seems like a bad idea, i'd much rather have a 9 volt...just a preferance thing, and boy it would sure cut down on weight.

Efficiency- Sufficiently less than most of the other high end guns out there.

Chopping - level 10 eliminated most, but i still see it happen all the time....needs ACE.

Price- it's simply not on my agenda to pay this much when I could get a viking or bushmaster and be ready to rip rip rip out of the box.